ALBERT BREER: Panthers open to trading up for LT

[Panthers8969]

27 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

From NFL.com

1) The Texans trade up for an O-lineman

Houston Texans receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 16 overall)

Carolina Panthers receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 23)
-- 2019 second-round pick (No. 55)

Why it works for the Texans: The model suggests the Texans optimize for wins if they prioritize an improvement on the offensive line in Round 1. Fortunately, they have two second-rounders (Nos. 54 and 55), so they can afford to use one to move up. The likelihood of my model's two highest-rated offensive linemen (Jawaan Taylor, Jonah Williams) being available is above average, until the Vikings(No. 18) and Seahawks (No. 21) are on the clock. The Jaguars (No. 7) and Broncos (No. 10) pose the greatest risks before No. 16.

Why it works for the Panthers: For the cost of just seven selections in the first round, they pick up an additional second-rounder. The Panthers have a strong core of starters, so modeling scenarios where they trade up doesn't yield as much value as focusing more attention on the end of the first and second rounds where they could add quality players who wouldn't necessarily be asked to be Day 1 starters. My model projects Carolina would be able to add value in pass defense (corner and pass rush, specifically) and select a Day 1-starting wide receiver with pick Nos. 23, 47 and 55.

 

That’s a great trade for us. And lol at him having us going from trading up to trading down. 

 

Also, wtf is this guy talking about that the drop off is those 3 to tytus(ew shouldn’t even be a second, but that’s another story, I’m no story teller). What happened to ford, Risner, cajuste? 

 

Also so we should really just draft Bobby Evans in the 3rd as that guy is extremely underrated. Might need to do a thread on him

[t96]

6 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Any trade up would almost certainly involve sacrificing said 2nd rounder.

Personally I'm looking at pass rush or OL in the first 2 rounds. Ya'll can worry about QB, but if we have no pass rush come December we're toast regardless of who is behind center. Can't win in this division without pass rush.

I’m fine with QB with our second third rounder but I want pass rusher in the first as well (will be okay with Jonah Williams if the top pass rushers are gone, but not the other OL being mentioned), then FS in the second (Savage please if he falls). Third round BPA be it OL, WR, whatever.

[micnificent28]

What doesn’t make sense are these are conflicting rumors. If we “must have Grier” who is only there in the second and you gotta trade up, your moving to what atleast to 8 to assure Taylor I would assume is your target. You aren’t getting there without moving your second. Somewhere there is a lie.

[TheSpecialJuan]

41 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

From NFL.com

1) The Texans trade up for an O-lineman

Houston Texans receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 16 overall)

Carolina Panthers receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 23)
-- 2019 second-round pick (No. 55)

Why it works for the Texans: The model suggests the Texans optimize for wins if they prioritize an improvement on the offensive line in Round 1. Fortunately, they have two second-rounders (Nos. 54 and 55), so they can afford to use one to move up. The likelihood of my model's two highest-rated offensive linemen (Jawaan Taylor, Jonah Williams) being available is above average, until the Vikings(No. 18) and Seahawks (No. 21) are on the clock. The Jaguars (No. 7) and Broncos (No. 10) pose the greatest risks before No. 16.

Why it works for the Panthers: For the cost of just seven selections in the first round, they pick up an additional second-rounder. The Panthers have a strong core of starters, so modeling scenarios where they trade up doesn't yield as much value as focusing more attention on the end of the first and second rounds where they could add quality players who wouldn't necessarily be asked to be Day 1 starters. My model projects Carolina would be able to add value in pass defense (corner and pass rush, specifically) and select a Day 1-starting wide receiver with pick Nos. 23, 47 and 55.

 

Not sure how realistic this is. Houston knows we would like a LT, they need a LT, if anything Texans would trade up AHEAD of us for Dillard.

[TheSpecialJuan]

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For Panthers faithful, the Raiders-Cardinals deal from last year might be one to look at. Arizona moved up from 15 to 10 by swapping 1sts, a 3rd and a 5th.

[TylerDurden]

This fuging team...

[TylerDurden]

[kungfoodude]

18 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Not sure how realistic this is. Houston knows we would like a LT, they need a LT, if anything Texans would trade up AHEAD of us for Dillard.

Trading down to 23 and picking up a 2nd rounder would be pretty sweet. I think a lot just depends on who is available.

[KillerKat]

We better just live with what we have now since we decided to win the last game. If we wanted a better pick, should've just tanked. If we trade anything to try to move up, Ron and company should be fired the next day.

[L-TownCat]

Worst case (Hurney) scenario:

1) LT

2) QB

3) RB

3) WR

 

The meltdown... the sweet sweet meltdown.

[Camp Fodder]

1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

From NFL.com

1) The Texans trade up for an O-lineman

Houston Texans receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 16 overall)

Carolina Panthers receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 23)
-- 2019 second-round pick (No. 55)

Why it works for the Texans: The model suggests the Texans optimize for wins if they prioritize an improvement on the offensive line in Round 1. Fortunately, they have two second-rounders (Nos. 54 and 55), so they can afford to use one to move up. The likelihood of my model's two highest-rated offensive linemen (Jawaan Taylor, Jonah Williams) being available is above average, until the Vikings(No. 18) and Seahawks (No. 21) are on the clock. The Jaguars (No. 7) and Broncos (No. 10) pose the greatest risks before No. 16.

Why it works for the Panthers: For the cost of just seven selections in the first round, they pick up an additional second-rounder. The Panthers have a strong core of starters, so modeling scenarios where they trade up doesn't yield as much value as focusing more attention on the end of the first and second rounds where they could add quality players who wouldn't necessarily be asked to be Day 1 starters. My model projects Carolina would be able to add value in pass defense (corner and pass rush, specifically) and select a Day 1-starting wide receiver with pick Nos. 23, 47 and 55.

 

I’d take this all day

[CBDellinger]

4 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Worst case (Hurney) scenario:

1) LT

2) QB

3) RB

3) WR

 

The meltdown... the sweet sweet meltdown.

Might be worth it for the lulz!

[sml1950]

Every GM is calling other teams to get an idea of what it would take to move up if someone falls(ie Tunsill a few years ago) and the media report these as trade requests when they are merely due diligence.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Goddamnit guys I told you Jonah Williams won't be there at #16, Andre Dillard won't be there at #16, and certainly, Jawann Taylor will not be there at #16! Every draftable O-lineman will be taken before we come up at #16