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Video: Film Room on the "3-4" Panthers Defense


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Found this video on YouTube. Was recorded prior to the Gerald McCoy signing. Nevertheless, still a very solid video:

With the Panthers signing Gerald McCoy, this defense is looking nasty. We've already seen a glimpse of what Rivera can do with the playbook in his hands, and all these toys he now has will surely elevate the team as a whole.

 

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11 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Found this video on YouTube. Was recorded prior to the Gerald McCoy signing. Nevertheless, still a very solid video:

With the Panthers signing Gerald McCoy, this defense is looking nasty. We've already seen a glimpse of what Rivera can do with the playbook in his hands, and all these toys he now has will surely elevate the team as a whole.

 

I think Rivera's lone mistake last season was not rescinding play calling duties from Washington after the Pittsburgh game. That was the most woeful game plan I've ever seen in a Panthers game and turned out to foreshadow much of the rest of the season. Norv handling the offense and Rivera the defense gives us two of the best at their respective side of the ball calling the shots. The plus side is that they don't seem to clash. 

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3 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

I think Rivera's lone mistake last season was not rescinding play calling duties from Washington after the Pittsburgh game. That was the most woeful game plan I've ever seen in a Panthers game and turned out to foreshadow much of the rest of the season. Norv handling the offense and Rivera the defense gives us two of the best at their respective side of the ball calling the shots. The plus side is that they don't seem to clash. 

This. It was so painfully obvious that Washington wasn't working out and that we were rapidly getting worse on that side of the ball.

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57 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This. It was so painfully obvious that Washington wasn't working out and that we were rapidly getting worse on that side of the ball.

Case in point is the continued blitzing of our best coverage player in the middle of the field and the lack of ability to get home on those blitzes. Every time Kuechly blitzed in that Pitt game I cringed because Ben saw it, audibled, and got a TE or RB out over the middle or in the flat to take the ball. Washington continued to make that call until the game was over. 

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6 hours ago, MountaineerChemist10 said:

The more I watch this, the less I'm worried about our new 3-4 hybrid D. We are going to demolish Brees! 

Just go back and watch the game. 12 to 9. Healthy Cam or even Kyle Allen and we likely win the game by 10 points or more. 

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I'm glad Rivera is taking back over the defensive play calling duties.  We have not had a good DC really IMHO since McDermott.  We'll see what Wilks does in Cleveland (and he certainly has talent to work with), but while I know all the players liked him, I don't think he was great at playcalling.

The other upside to this is that it somewhat forces Rivera to cede more of the offensive side to Norv, which I think is a great thing

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4 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Just go back and watch the game. 12 to 9. Healthy Cam or even Kyle Allen and we likely win the game by 10 points or more. 

Rivera is spot on when he says you can't just line up and beat a QB like Brees or Ryan.  They are too good at diagnosing the play and getting the ball out quickly and accurately.  The best way to slow them down is to mix up coverages and make them hold the ball longer.   Both guys are rhythm passers and breaking that rhythm is key.  Winston is the same way to a lesser degree.

I think the mobile QB's can handle it better b/c they can scramble and/or run when the play breaks down.  Hell I think the majority of the Seahawks offense with Wilson is based on that.

Going back to Brees & Ryan, they also deal with edge pressure much better than interior pressure b/c of their pocket awareness and ability to manipulate it.  

The NFC South is going to be tough every year with those guys behind center.  But with a healthy Cam and our revitalized Front 7, I think we have a shot

 

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2 hours ago, MountaineerChemist10 said:

My wife & I watched it last year. We were amazed with our defense. Had no idea we were using 3-4 until now.

Good comment. I feel the same way. After watching this video I can see why the 3-4 front seems to be becoming more popular in today's pass happy league. A great 4 man d-line pass rush is ideal but those type of players don't grow on trees. And, even if you do put together a great d-line for a couple of years, by the time their contracts need to be extended you'd never be able to pay them all. This video shows that you don't have to have extraordinary pass rushers to create pressure and confusion on the defensive side of the ball.

I'm really looking forward to watching the defense Rivera puts on the field this year. 

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