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Irvin compares the Panthers defensive depth to Seattle in 2013


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11 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

I hope he is right   What fan wouldn’t?

Let’s see how they do against the Rams before comparisons. are made

Of course Rivera did very well against McVey’s offense when Sean was the OC of the Redskins but the Redskins didn't have near the weapons the Rams have 

Looking forward to the game as well. I think we can borrow a lot that the Patriots did to slow them down. Like us in 2015, the Rams offense was exposed.

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11 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

I hope he is right   What fan wouldn’t?

Let’s see how they do against the Rams before comparisons. are made

Of course Rivera did very well against McVey’s offense when Sean was the OC of the Redskins but the Redskins didn't have near the weapons the Rams have 

Yeah, I'm excited for our potential, but the realist in me knows that the FS spot is a huge question mark as are our edge rushers. We also need Short and Poe to bounce back. I trust that our D will be better than last year, but I don't know exactly how much better. If everything works out to plan, we could field a top 5 D. If it doesn't, it wouldn't surprise me if we were middle of the pack. 

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I'm excited for our potential, but the realist in me knows that the FS spot is a huge question mark as are our edge rushers. We also need Short and Poe to bounce back. I trust that our D will be better than last year, but I don't know exactly how much better. If everything works out to plan, we could field a top 5 D. If it doesn't, it wouldn't surprise me if we were middle of the pack. 

Yeah and we really have no idea how long or IF we are able to dial in these new looks defensively. I feel the same way, cautiously optimistic but with the realization that we were a middle of the road defense last year and that could easily happen again.

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13 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Eh....I would say that might be debatable but Browner was obviously made to look a lot better by the quality of his teammates. 

Browner was a UDFA who had to do a stint in the CFL to even get a shot in the NFL and he never amounted to much of anything outside of Seattle. They let him walk to NE for a fairly small 3 year, $17M deal and he only lasted one season there. He was solid in their system surrounded by elite talent, but he was largely the product of an ideal situation. I honestly don't think Bradberry would've had much of an issue sending Browner to the bench.

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly, Bradberry is tailor-made for Seattle's press and bail version of cover 3. Press is what he does best. Playing 10 yards off the LOS is what he does worst and seems to be what we ask of him the most.

That may be true, but I don't think he is as good at it as Seattle's corners were.  Of course, that is a pretty high bar, so its no shame on him.  

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Browner was a UDFA who had to do a stint in the CFL to even get a shot in the NFL and he never amounted to much of anything outside of Seattle. They let him walk to NE for a fairly small 3 year, $17M deal and he only lasted one season there. He was solid in their system surrounded by elite talent, but he was largely the product of an ideal situation. I honestly don't think Bradberry would've had much of an issue sending Browner to the bench.

Yeah, that's possible but I do think him being such a giant at the position probably fit well with what they were doing at the time. 

Side note, it is crazy that all of the major stars of that Legion of Boom had their careers either cut short or drastically altered by injuries. 

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3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, that's possible but I do think him being such a giant at the position probably fit well with what they were doing at the time. 

Side note, it is crazy that all of the major stars of that Legion of Boom had their careers either cut short or drastically altered by injuries. 

It's a brutal sport. 

 

5 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

That may be true, but I don't think he is as good at it as Seattle's corners were.  Of course, that is a pretty high bar, so its no shame on him.  

Better than Sherman? Nope. Better than Browner? Yeah, I think so and I honestly don't even think it's that close. Imagine how good Bradberry would look opposite arguably the best CB in the game, backed by the best FS in the game and Kam Chancellor.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's a brutal sport. 

 

Better than Sherman? Nope. Better than Browner? Yeah, I think so and I honestly don't even think it's that close. Imagine how good Bradberry would look opposite arguably the best CB in the game, backed by the best FS in the game and Kam Chancellor.

Depends.  Are we talking about the normal Browner, or the roided up Browner?  :)

 

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12 hours ago, Peppers90 NC said:

It's comparable. I would say our front 7 is better but their secondary was way better.

Yeah their Safeties were elite and allowed Sherman to take chances. I really wish we could add one more safety. Even if he's past his prime.

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