Aints giving Thomas 100m.. 61m guaranteed

[Shocker]

Their cap guy is a fuggin genius.  How they are doing this I have no clue.

[ChibCU]

2 hours ago, Peppers90 NC said:

Tyreke Hill is the most dangerous receiver in the game

Unintentional I'm sure... but I'd agree he's dangerous. Especially to his own child.

[bababoey]

1 hour ago, TheRumGone said:

They need to cut bait with Brees after this year imo. Dead money hit for 2020 is 21 million. Goes to 5 million in 2021. Right at the time they can extend their stars like lattimore and kamara. Get a qb on a rookie contract. 2020 will be a rough year for them but it’ll come open after that.

They can't cut Brees after this year because 2020 was a voidable year built into the contract.  So he is a free agent after this year and will cost them 26 million if he is not on the team next year.  That does not get split over 2 years it all hits next year.  So either he retires and cost the Saints 26 million in cap space, he signs a new contract and cost whatever the first year hit is, or plays for another team and cost the Saints 26 million in cap space.  They kind of put themselves in a corner pushing all of his money back year after year. 

[Trill OG]

4 hours ago, saints4lifeagain said:

In what world is MT not in the same conversation as Julio, AB, and Hopkins?

He's not. Those guys are all better players. Brees has a tendency to make players look better than they really are. Remember Jimmy Graham? He was never the same after leaving the Saints. Keep in mind he had 2 pretty good QB's in Wilson and Rodgers after Brees. Michael Thomas is a #1, but I don't see him as a top 5 WR.

He's probably the 3rd best WR in our division honestly. I got Julio and Evans above Thomas.

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

The owner of the Aints may have added some cash to help retain key star players behind closed doors with no knowledge to fans, media, and only ones that would know is SP and certain staff members.

[Trill OG]

Michael Thomas had 97 more catches than any other WR on the Saints roster. When you are targeted that much he was bound to put up crazy numbers.

[t96]

1 minute ago, Trill OG said:

Michael Thomas had 97 more catches than any other WR on the Saints roster. When you are targeted that much he was bound to put up crazy numbers.

They weren’t even good numbers considering the large workload. 11 ypc is not dynamic at all compared to all the league’s top receivers. The only thing impressive was his catch rate and he certainly has good hands but that is more due to Brees and Payton putting him in a good easy position to get tons of catches and catchable targets.

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16 minutes ago, Trill OG said:

Michael Thomas had 97 more catches than any other WR on the Saints roster. When you are targeted that much he was bound to put up crazy numbers.

Targeted that much? The only guy in the top 10 in catches with fewer targets was CMC, a RB lol. He’s targeted less than any top WR in the league, he just catches everything. 

13 minutes ago, t96 said:

They weren’t even good numbers considering the large workload. 11 ypc is not dynamic at all compared to all the league’s top receivers. The only thing impressive was his catch rate and he certainly has good hands but that is more due to Brees and Payton putting him in a good easy position to get tons of catches and catchable targets.

Weren’t even good numbers lol. Look at this hatin ass mf. Lol. Thomas maaaannnnnnnnn.  

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2 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Agreed. Michael Thomas has had top tier play for a good bit of time. He deserves to be in that conversation.

You were one of the few opposing fans who noticed it early. We talked about it after his rookie year, correct?

[Peppers90 NC]

31 minutes ago, Trill OG said:

Michael Thomas is a #1, but I don't see him as a top 5 WR.

He's probably the 3rd best WR in our division honestly. I got Julio and Evans above Thomas.

I have him just outside the top 5 but considerably higher than Evans.

[panthers55]

32 minutes ago, bababoey said:

They can't cut Brees after this year because 2020 was a voidable year built into the contract.  So he is a free agent after this year and will cost them 26 million if he is not on the team next year.  That does not get split over 2 years it all hits next year.  So either he retires and cost the Saints 26 million in cap space, he signs a new contract and cost whatever the first year hit is, or plays for another team and cost the Saints 26 million in cap space.  They kind of put themselves in a corner pushing all of his money back year after year. 

That dead money can be restructured again pushing it down the road but when you add up the new contract and parcel out the dead money, the cap hit would have to be 35 million plus. At some point you have to bite the bullet and absorb the hit 

[TheRumGone]

1 hour ago, bababoey said:

They can't cut Brees after this year because 2020 was a voidable year built into the contract.  So he is a free agent after this year and will cost them 26 million if he is not on the team next year.  That does not get split over 2 years it all hits next year.  So either he retires and cost the Saints 26 million in cap space, he signs a new contract and cost whatever the first year hit is, or plays for another team and cost the Saints 26 million in cap space.  They kind of put themselves in a corner pushing all of his money back year after year. 

I didn’t mean cut like he was under contract for 2020. I just meant cut bait as in don’t resign him. My mistake. A couple of the websites I used had those figures 21 million for 2020 and 5 million for 2021 in dead cap space. 

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1 hour ago, Peppers90 NC said:

I have him just outside the top 5 but considerably higher than Evans.

There’s so many guys you could make an argument for man. I think most lists would have him somewhere between 3-8. 

[Peppers90 NC]

31 minutes ago, saints4lifeagain said:

There’s so many guys you could make an argument for man. I think most lists would have him somewhere between 3-8. 

yea for sure, I think MT is one of the most complete. He has no weaknesses, but other guys have bigger play potential. Not that my two pennies matter, but I have Hill as the most dominant in the game, he does things no other guys can do. Then you have AB, JJ, Hop and I think MT is right there after those guys along with Adams and Odell(very inconsistent and a headcase) and AJ(when healthy of course). So 3-8 is fair and it's fair for Saints fans to believe he is the best. With the cap increases going like they are, MT's deal will be considered team-friendly in a couple years. The 8 guys I listed would be the "elite ones" in my very unimportant opinion but AJ is falling out because of his ability to stay off the field.