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We need to extend Allen.

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ClawOn Grand Master

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Ahhhh the one thousandth Kyle Allen thread. I haven't caught it all but what we're not talking about enough is his confidence. He acts like a 10 year pro. I agree with the rational posters that the full picture remains to be seen,  but you don't win in this league unless you genuinely believe you belong. KA has that. 

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7 minutes ago, Baskinridge said:

Better question is how much can his trade value go up.

On the flipside....

....who would be the better trade option?  Newton?  Allen?

Shipping Herschel Walker was the greatest trades in the history of the NFL and charted a direct path to 3 Super Bowl Championships.

Could a generational future HOF franchise QB like Cam Newton bring a simila,r massive haul of transformational talent into the coffers of The, Carolina Panthers?

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27 minutes ago, SBiii said:

On the flipside....

....who would be the better trade option?  Newton?  Allen?

Shipping Herschel Walker was the greatest trades in the history of the NFL and charted a direct path to 3 Super Bowl Championships.

Could a generational future HOF franchise QB like Cam Newton bring a simila,r massive haul of transformational talent into the coffers of The, Carolina Panthers?

Two first round picks for Cam? 

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53 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I’ve never seen a starting QB as an RFA so he would get swiped so quickly. We have a chance to match but you’d be dumb to take a chance. I’m not saying Allen is all that, but if he’s our Cam replacement we’ll have to start ponying up $$$ in 2022 because any QB that’s good enough would be easy pickings for a cap loaded team in need of a QB. Foles done in Jax, give up a mid to late 1st for a 2 year starting QB. No doubter. 2020 and 2021, he’s cheap and 100% off the market.

Right now the only one I can think, was Romo a RFA? I believe before that Jerry signed him to a multi-year deal. Matt Moore maybe another, I cannt remember what his status was once he replaced Jake. I seem to member a 1st being placed on him. What I dont know if you can bypass all that worry with the tag, exclusive one. There maybe a couple more QBs, but those two are what I know currently. 

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45 minutes ago, Snake said:

Two first round picks for Cam? 

This is the initial trove Dallas secured from the Vikings:

  • LB Jesse Solomon
  • LB David Howard
  • CB Issiac Holt
  • RB Darrin Nelson
  • DE Alex Stewart
  • Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1990
  • Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1990
  • Minnesota's 6th round pick in 1990
  • Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1991 (conditional on cutting Solomon)
  • Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1991 (conditional on cutting Howard)
  • Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1992 (conditional on cutting Holt)
  • Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1992 (conditional on cutting Nelson)
  • Minnesota's 3rd round pick in 1992 (conditional on cutting Stewart)

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Could Cam bring in a similar haul?

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9 hours ago, Snake said:

He wasn't bad in NO either. All I'm saying is he needs to be extended. Not given 40 million. With Cam only having a year left on his contract a guy who could be a second choice isn't bad. 

Not going to lie, even if he could go to another team next year we wouldn't get an extension done at this time anyhow. I don't think any agent that is worth his weight in salt would try to talk right now knowing that the deal he would get now would be a hell of a lot lower than the deal he would get later on if he plays really well.

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1 hour ago, SBiii said:

This is the initial trove Dallas secured from the Vikings:

  • LB Jesse Solomon
  • LB David Howard
  • CB Issiac Holt
  • RB Darrin Nelson
  • DE Alex Stewart
  • Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1990
  • Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1990
  • Minnesota's 6th round pick in 1990
  • Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1991 (conditional on cutting Solomon)
  • Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1991 (conditional on cutting Howard)
  • Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1992 (conditional on cutting Holt)
  • Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1992 (conditional on cutting Nelson)
  • Minnesota's 3rd round pick in 1992 (conditional on cutting Stewart)

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Could Cam bring in a similar haul?

No.  Not even close.

If hypothetically Allen balls out the rest of the season, and Cam doesn't see the field again...

I would be happy if we could get a single first round pick in a trade.  The Hershel Walker trade was when Walker was playing at his absolute best.  Cam hasn't been at his best in a few years now.  No one is going to trade much for a QB north of 30, with a injury history, low recent play time, that hasn't been in top form in 4-5 years.

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7 hours ago, ichigo1057 said:

Not going to lie, even if he could go to another team next year we wouldn't get an extension done at this time anyhow. I don't think any agent that is worth his weight in salt would try to talk right now knowing that the deal he would get now would be a hell of a lot lower than the deal he would get later on if he plays really well.

As others have said he is under his current deal till 2022. Not much negotiating power Right Now. 

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24 minutes ago, Snake said:

As others have said he is under his current deal till 2022. Not much negotiating power Right Now. 

I know he is, that why I said "Even if he was able to go to another team" . Basically put if he does well we have a good backup QB up until his contract is up or should we decide to trade him.

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8 hours ago, SBiii said:

This is the initial trove Dallas secured from the Vikings:

  • LB Jesse Solomon
  • LB David Howard
  • CB Issiac Holt
  • RB Darrin Nelson
  • DE Alex Stewart
  • Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1990
  • Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1990
  • Minnesota's 6th round pick in 1990
  • Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1991 (conditional on cutting Solomon)
  • Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1991 (conditional on cutting Howard)
  • Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1992 (conditional on cutting Holt)
  • Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1992 (conditional on cutting Nelson)
  • Minnesota's 3rd round pick in 1992 (conditional on cutting Stewart)

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Could Cam bring in a similar haul?

LOL You are not serious are you?

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