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What A Gutsy Performance From Our Quarterback

dgr8one

By dgr8one,
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mc52beast Grand Master

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Yo must be one of the biggest Cam haters on this forum. How the hell do you say we haven’t had a real qb in years when Cam won the MVP in 2015 and was 6-2 last season before he fell apart.

Put the haterade down and take your blindfolds off

And oh yeh, Allen didn’t play a great game today. CMC ran well and he didn’t get a chance to fumble anything

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Delhomme actually fumbled a lot in his first year as a starter, as I recall.

Granted, not as much as Allen.

Allen's fumbling is insanely frequent, but I think a lot of new QBs have less severe problems early on.

At least he went a half without a fumble...?

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Just now, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Allen has started 4 games (all of which were wins).

Chances are he'll improve with time.

 

Of course he will improve.

The Panthers have a QB who is a career 4-0 and showing improvement every game. There is absolutely no reason to rock the boat and replace him when the other QB is healthy.

Sometimes it shows when you work on your craft and spend time watching film. Kyle is a grinder who is only going to get better.

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Just now, Castavar said:

Kyle Allen is a good game manager, that's it. He HAS to work on those fumbles though. Every time he gets hit he fumbles. Maybe he just has small hands, but one of these times the defense is going to run one back.

At least he had the guts to jump on the fumble after losing it.

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Obvious stupid shitpost thread aside, Kyle Allen has done an admirable job with the situation he was thrown into. Is he a legit starter? You just can't know that from only 3 or 4 starts. At this time until the fumbles are under control all we can expect of him is to hopefully not directly lose us the game. He is at best an at times shaky game manager as of right now. Considering we are starting a young QB it could be worse. But that OL has got to keep trending upward or none of this will matter.

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