cam newton wasn't on the sidelines because he was following the doctors orders

[weyco2000]

1 hour ago, rayzor said:

They weren't saying he'd be standing on the plane. Why have him fly across the ocean for practices and a game where he'd just be standing for a few hours on a foot they don't want him to be standing for berry long on? That's what they were saying.

Yes I know, being sarcastic.

[raz]

9 hours ago, panthers1234 said:

Actually theres alot of internal racism that alot of people don't seem to notice. They see a flamboyant black man playing QB doing superman and dab poses and alot of people hate it because its different from what they are use to seeing. Heck even if you look around the stadium in years past a majority of white people wear Luke or CMC jerserys. They tend to support who they resemble and look like. That's is not to say everyone falls into this category but a majority of them do. 

so you think all the black players in the league have internal racism?  do you think that's why they voted him most underappreciated or whatever that was?  why do you think they wanted to knock his block off after the '15 season? i'll give you a hint, it wasn't racism, it was dabbing and superman poses and stunting on them after embarrassing them. that's why a lot of fans from other teams can't stand him.  he rubs it in their faces.   you think the baker mayfield hate is racism?  you think they want to knock his block off because of racism?  nope, its all the crap he talks. yes, there is racism, but you are generalizing an insane amount and glossing over what it really is.  calling everyone racists is a lot easier than admitting cam brought a lot of this on himself by his on field behavior.   its great when he's embarrassing everyone, not so great when they all can't wait to get their pound of flesh.  rivera should have put a stop to it in '15.  he played in the league.  he knew what was gonna happen.   it is example 1,234 of rivera not protecting cam from himself.

[rayzor]

30 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

Yes I know, being sarcastic.

I was hoping so. Hard to tell anymore.

[Saca312]

1 hour ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Cam could have been there if Cam wanted to be there. Crutches, bench, hell even an exercise bike available. Even active players don't stand the entire time.

That said, I really don't care and neither does the team according to the win streak. Would have been cool to see him and delhomme together though.

 

 

I'm sure Cam wanted to be there. But he honestly still needs a break to regroup and recollect himself after having been injured or off for a good bit of games, so I think it's healthy for him to take a break away like he has.

Should be a non-story in general. Everyone knows Cam cares about this team. He's doing what's best for him, and the team is surviving in the meanwhile.

[SmartyHurney]

2 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Cam could have been there if Cam wanted to be there. Crutches, bench, hell even an exercise bike available. Even active players don't stand the entire time.

That said, I really don't care and neither does the team according to the win streak. Would have been cool to see him and delhomme together though.

 

 

Dr. Igo.

[TheRed]

There are 8 pages here, and 8 threads in total in the main about an injured Cam Newton. For whatever you may feel about him, it will absolutely be interesting to revisit this place and see how tunes have changed come December if Cam still isn't playing.

If you haven't taken a gander at the second half of our schedule, you may want to freshen your memory. Things may get a bit rough.

[panthers55]

11 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

What your describing is best player or quarterback of their generation which is a lot more specific. Generational talent is not just a measure of games won and completion percentages. I wouldn't make the arguement for cam in that instance. Generation "talent" is more a measure of potential and athletic ability. People called Todd Gurley a generational talent at RB and Sequon Barkley. Thos guys dont have 5 years under their belts but the term is use on them.

Why? Because they have potential to revolutionize the game.. not saying they will reach said heights not that isn't what talent means. Raw ability is what were looking at. And Jim Harbaugh said it best when Cam was in the discussion of being the number 1 pick, yes hes raw.. but that is plutonium grade material  raw material he has to work with.

Again I agree on the athletic ability and that he was a game changer. Was just pointing out that your definition of him is incorrect. He is not a generational talent until you actually produce. It's results driven not potential or talent alone. Lots of players have tons of talent. That doesn't make them generational talents unless they can produce results on the field for a long time.

[NorthTryon]

18 hours ago, raz said:

cam is not a generational talent at qb.  get a grip.  that would be tom brady.   maybe mahomes will be the next generational talent, we'll see.   cam has been a really good qb and has played great at times and for stretches, but he's not a generational talent at qb.  you're delusional

 

16 hours ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

you're right if you take away the things that make him a generational talent at quarterback then he's no longer a generational talent at quarterback. very insightful stuff here

Exactly.  If Tom Brady didn't play in the AFC least with a guaranteed division championship nine out of every ten years and his team didn't do everything to gain an advantage(some would call it cheating at times) and he didn't play for Bill Belichick.  See how that works?  Cam is very much a generational talent by his accomplishments and athletic ability point blank.  If he wins a championship, he is first ballot.  But this guy says he is a fan of Cam though.

2 hours ago, raz said:

so you think all the black players in the league have internal racism?  do you think that's why they voted him most underappreciated or whatever that was?  why do you think they wanted to knock his block off after the '15 season? i'll give you a hint, it wasn't racism, it was dabbing and superman poses and stunting on them after embarrassing them. that's why a lot of fans from other teams can't stand him.  he rubs it in their faces.   you think the baker mayfield hate is racism?  you think they want to knock his block off because of racism?  nope, its all the crap he talks. yes, there is racism, but you are generalizing an insane amount and glossing over what it really is.  calling everyone racists is a lot easier than admitting cam brought a lot of this on himself by his on field behavior.   its great when he's embarrassing everyone, not so great when they all can't wait to get their pound of flesh.  rivera should have put a stop to it in '15.  he played in the league.  he knew what was gonna happen.   it is example 1,234 of rivera not protecting cam from himself.

They wanted to knock his block off because football is a violent sport.  Richard Sherman deals with the same issues and he is a model citizen.  The backlash he received after making one of the biggest and most clutch plays ever on Michael Crabtree was pure racism.  He was being interviewed a mere number of seconds after making the play to go to championship and he was excited.  The white girl interviewing him was visibly uneasy and everybody jumped down Sherman's throat about his actions.  Quit trying to downplay sh*t you don't understand.  Also, all players talk sh*t and stunt on the competition save for choir boys R. Wilson and the recent retired A. Luck.  People want to knock Russell's, Luck's, and countless other QBs heads off.  Was Mahomes dabbing, being outlandish, and rubbing it in people's face?  No, but people want to tear his head off.  The league chose to punish Cam after his MVP season when they could have put the league behind him.  They let him take all of those head shots in the Denver and Atlanta game.  Ron, teammates, and fans all had to see our MVP be treated like a journeyman against the 81 Raiders' defense for being good.  You saying that Ron needed to reel Cam in for his own good is exactly the kind bullshiggity we talking about.  Nobody was telling Aaron Rodgers to reel it in when he was discount double checking every Sunday.  Nobody told Brady to reel it in when they were undefeated and he was running to DBs he had just thrown TDs on and pointing in their faces.  This is not surface level stuff that you can dismiss.  I get that its hard for you to understand, but it is not made up and you can't belittle people's reality. 

[Basbear]

Odd, it gets stranger and stranger when it already beyond the mind. 

[cookinbrak]

Quote

A generation is "all of the people born and living at about the same time, regarded collectively." It can also be described as, "the average period, generally considered to be about thirty years, during which children are born and grow up, become adults, and begin to have children of their own".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation

Not even close. Generational talent doesn't come along every few years.

[rico6]

7 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

 

Exactly.  If Tom Brady didn't play in the AFC least with a guaranteed division championship nine out of every ten years and his team didn't do everything to gain an advantage(some would call it cheating at times) and he didn't play for Bill Belichick.  See how that works?  Cam is very much a generational talent by his accomplishments and athletic ability point blank.  If he wins a championship, he is first ballot.  But this guy says he is a fan of Cam though.

They wanted to knock his block off because football is a violent sport.  Richard Sherman deals with the same issues and he is a model citizen.  The backlash he received after making one of the biggest and most clutch plays ever on Michael Crabtree was pure racism.  He was being interviewed a mere number of seconds after making the play to go to championship and he was excited.  The white girl interviewing him was visibly uneasy and everybody jumped down Sherman's throat about his actions.  Quit trying to downplay sh*t you don't understand.  Also, all players talk sh*t and stunt on the competition save for choir boys R. Wilson and the recent retired A. Luck.  People want to knock Russell's, Luck's, and countless other QBs heads off.  Was Mahomes dabbing, being outlandish, and rubbing it in people's face?  No, but people want to tear his head off.  The league chose to punish Cam after his MVP season when they could have put the league behind him.  They let him take all of those head shots in the Denver and Atlanta game.  Ron, teammates, and fans all had to see our MVP be treated like a journeyman against the 81 Raiders' defense for being good.  You saying that Ron needed to reel Cam in for his own good is exactly the kind bullshiggity we talking about.  Nobody was telling Aaron Rodgers to reel it in when he was discount double checking every Sunday.  Nobody told Brady to reel it in when they were undefeated and he was running to DBs he had just thrown TDs on and pointing in their faces.  This is not surface level stuff that you can dismiss.  I get that its hard for you to understand, but it is not made up and you can't belittle people's reality. 

Log out for a while after this one, raz.

[SBiii]

10 hours ago, panthers55 said:

He is not a generational talent until you actually produce. It's results driven not potential or talent alone. Lots of players have tons of talent. That doesn't make them generational talents unless they can produce results on the field for a long time.

What you say reminds me of Tony Mandarich. 

How many of you remember him?