Kyle Allen - Trade

[CanadianCat]

Lets talk hypotheticals here...

 

Lets say QB1 comes back and plays well. Now lets also assume that Will Grier continues to develop throughout the season, Kyle Allen could probably fetch some pretty good trade capital given how young and cheap he is.

We might be in a position like the Patriots have been the last several years where we trade a back up for decent draft capital. I think that is the best case situation for us. 

 

[uncfan888]

I would keep Kyle. Even if cam comes back healthy, he's only signed one more year and there's no guarantee he'll stay healthy. Keep Kyle as long as we can

[kungfoodude]

Probably not going to be as much trade value as you would think for a relatively unproven guy on a one year deal. Better off to wait until free agency and then just out bid us.

[musicman]

I love Cam and hope he's healthy and comes back and plays lights out. BUT, can you afford to keep him, CMC, Bradberry, Shaq, etc? And sign a few new guys. Tough decisions for the GM.

[uncfan888]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Probably not going to be as much trade value as you would think for a relatively unproven guy on a one year deal. Better off to wait until free agency and then just out bid us.

Isn't he exclusive rights? If we tender him, he can't even negotiate with other teams

[kungfoodude]

Just now, uncfan888 said:

Isn't he exclusive rights? If we tender him, he can't even negotiate with other teams

Just looked it up, he is an ERFA. That would make him potentially more valuable as a trade chip in that hypothetical. 

[ncfan]

NO

You do like Foles in Philly

Part of this fan base wants a 100% healthy QB1 Back

But you need to make sure he can make it through this year and next before extending him.  If he goes on to stay healthy this year and next and looks good.  Yeah you trade Allen 

 

Philly knew a healthy Wentz was their best option but had injury problems.  But Foles showed he could win you games.  Eventually they extended Wentz at the end of his contract and moved on from Foles

 

If Cam comes back but then injury problems next year, atleast you have Allen and extend him and not resign Cam

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

Lets talk hypotheticals here...

 

Lets say QB1 comes back and plays well. Now lets also assume that Will Grier continues to develop throughout the season, Kyle Allen could probably fetch some pretty good trade capital given how young and cheap he is.

We might be in a position like the Patriots have been the last several years where we trade a back up for decent draft capital. I think that is the best case situation for us. 

 

Why would you trade a good backup just because Cam returns? 

Cam has missed significant time the last 2 years and taken more punishment in NFL history....him coming back healthy doesn’t mean he stays that way for long.  He could come back 100% and be back out in 3 weeks.  We need a backup.

You keep Allen. 

[Jeremy Igo]

You can't trade a promising young QB in this league, especially when your starter hasn't been able to stay on the field. You just can't.

[Pimpdaddy]

...Not sure i want to see Grier hit the field anytime soon..

[ncfan]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Why would you trade a good backup just because Cam returns? 

Cam has missed significant time the last 2 years and taken more punishment in NFL history....him coming back healthy doesn’t mean he stays that way for long.  He could come back 100% and be back out in 3 weeks.  We need a backup.

You keep Allen. 

This

This same fan base were PISSED at Hurney after preseason because Grier and Allen looked bad and we wanted a Backup that could come in and win games, something we havnt had since Anderson

 

 

Now your wanting to Trade that same thing you were crucifying the GM for, for "not getting this offseason"?

[4Corners]

This what happens when hockey people start to dabble in a real sport like football. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Jeremy Igo said:

You can't trade a promising young QB in this league, especially when your starter hasn't been able to stay on the field. You just can't.

Yeah, I am assuming he is saying Cam comes back and finishes the year healthy while playing well. 

It would make more sense to keep Allen around but it is also a hypothetical. 

So, what's the ultimate squeal point on trading him? What if a first round pick is offered? 

[1of10Charnatives]

Here’s a counter hypothetical: Cam hasn’t sustained the injuries he has in the past 2 years but is still on the wrong side of 30 and his effectiveness is still dependent on a play style that puts his body at risk more than any other qb in the league. Do you expect your massive good fortune to continue indefinitely or do you prudently invest in retaining a backup who is above average against the inevitable day when your aging franchise guy can’t go?

Even without the current injury situation you retain Allen.