Can we rebuild quickly without the 20 million cap savings?

[Jmac]

Without the 20 million dollar cap savings via Cam's contract, can they rebuilt the team within a couple of years? I hope Cam recovers and gets a shot to show he still has it. Make it tough on Tepper to not resign him.

What would you do if Cam balls out and they keep him?  How would you go about adding the players needed (Oline,Dline), and resign FA's with the available resources they would have....or will Tepper drop Cam regardless to get the extra cap space to rebuild?

How would you go about doing this without the cap space?

[Bronn]

We will have enough space without doing anything with Cam to begin with.

Poe will be gone. Olsen is likely gone. A few others will be gone (Moncrief, Davis) that we don't even use and who will have no negative cap impact.

We can have around $60 Million without doing anything with Cam's contract.

Let him heal up. Let him return to the starting line up. If he balls out, extend him or get more in a trade for him. If he flops, his deal is up anyways and we can take whatever we can get for him before the trade deadline.

[Lucian]

I would see if cincinatti or miami would be willing to trade their pick for our first rounder and cam newron so that we can draft burrow. Probabky a long shot though since both of those teams probably want burrow themselves.

[pnthrs]

The saints go into every offseason with little to no cap room and manage to make big splashes and build a perennial winner.  Cams 20m is no excuse to not be competitive in other areas.  

[Zaximus]

If Cam get healthy, this team can compete as in.   I don't think this is a lot cause just yet, I really don't.     

[rodeo]

people are overstating the need for a rebuild. the only thing that needs rebuilt are our o and d lines. our core is already young.

[t96]

27 minutes ago, Lucian said:

I would see if cincinatti or miami would be willing to trade their pick for our first rounder and cam newron so that we can draft burrow. Probabky a long shot though since both of those teams probably want burrow themselves.

Burrow is not worth a high first rounder and I doubt he’ll be a true franchise QB. This year sucks for QBs. If we’re gonna tank for a QB next year is the time, with Lawrence and Fields.

[run-run-pass-punt]

4 minutes ago, rodeo said:

people are overstating the need for a rebuild. the only thing that needs rebuilt are our o and d lines. our core is already young.

Oh just both lines?! To be fair, that's essentially everything.  ;)

[t96]

2 minutes ago, rodeo said:

people are overstating the need for a rebuild. the only thing that needs rebuilt are our o and d lines. our core is already young.

Biggest problem is we don’t have a QB unless Cam somehow magically gets to 100% and gets his arm strength back which is seeming unlikely. I say we keep Cam and see what he can offer next year, and if he can’t do much to help us win then we do a full on tank for Lawrence or Fields. I can live with another 2010 like year if it gets us Lawrence.

[JARROD]

2 minutes ago, t96 said:

Burrow is not worth a high first rounder and I doubt he’ll be a true franchise QB. This year sucks for QBs. If we’re gonna tank for a QB next year is the time, with Lawrence and Fields.

But but this is the off-season for quarterbacks.

thats all I heard last year.

[rodeo]

7 minutes ago, t96 said:

Biggest problem is we don’t have a QB unless Cam somehow magically gets to 100% and gets his arm strength back which is seeming unlikely. I say we keep Cam and see what he can offer next year, and if he can’t do much to help us win then we do a full on tank for Lawrence or Fields. I can live with another 2010 like year if it gets us Lawrence.

it won't take magic, lisa frank surgeries don't take that long to recover from, and his shoulder has had this full season of rest. i think it's likely he's healthy and prime shape next year.

[RumHam]

52 minutes ago, Jmac said:

Without the 20 million dollar cap savings via Cam's contract, can they rebuilt the team within a couple of years? I hope Cam recovers and gets a shot to show he still has it. Make it tough on Tepper to not resign him.

What would you do if Cam balls out and they keep him?  How would you go about adding the players needed (Oline,Dline), and resign FA's with the available resources they would have....or will Tepper drop Cam regardless to get the extra cap space to rebuild?

How would you go about doing this without the cap space?

Irs more than that. This line needs to be fixed. He will just get hurt again. It seriously TOOK THREE fuging PLAYS IN A PRESEASON GAME. I knew thenwriting was onnthe wall for all of this then

[thefuzz]

14 minutes ago, rodeo said:

people are overstating the need for a rebuild. the only thing that needs rebuilt are our o and d lines. our core is already young.

I disagree with you on this one.

We have nothing to build around on the offensive line, defensive line, or secondary that are currently signed long term.

We have major questions at QB and TE, and we have some issues at WR and LB.

This team is in pretty bad shape currently.

[Krovvy]

Can we rebuild quickly without a quarterback? The answer is no.

How long will it take to find a quarterback that's above average if Cam leaves? On average, maybe 5 years if we invest a lot, and don't get stuck in a situation like Miami with Tannehill. It's so fuging hard to find a quarterback. Honestly, we should keep Cam, and keep drafting mid-late round quarterbacks. We should take a shot at quarterback every year at this point.