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Kyle Allen. Despite being written off already, I still see potential there.


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So it seems a majority of us has already written off Allen as just yet another footnote QB for the Panthers like Matt Moore or Jimmy Clausen, I’m not so sure I’m ready to throw in the towel myself though. Yes, he has looked inconsistent and has had some piss poor games. But there is one key thing I still think Allen has in spades.. Intangibles. Stuff you won’t see on film or can see in stat lines. He just seems to pass the eye test, he is calm under pressure, the work ethic seems to be there, he doesn’t seem to let bad plays weigh him down, he sees the field well most of the time and despite a few fixable things here or there he seems to learn from his mistakes and learn.

Besides all this I go back and look at his game against a good Houston team in a hostile environment and his game against the Saints this year in the dome, even the AZ game where he didn’t crack despite his first start this year in front of loved ones and friends. The bottom line is this, most of us have written off Allen as just another forgotten QB but I am very intrigued to see what he can do with a whole off season with a new offensive minded head coach and one year wiser with all the experience he has gained this year. Keep in mind as well he is just 23 years old, only two years removed from being able to drink legally for god Saale. 

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i think he could be good with a great line.  great lines aren't happening anymore, or rarely, and they're tough to sustain.  just listening to ex o-line players they need more practice than they're allowed.  we're gonna have to get someone more mobile.  i want jalen, but we'll see what happens.   

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1 minute ago, raz said:

i think he could be good with a great line.  great lines aren't happening anymore, or rarely, and they're tough to sustain.  just listening to ex o-line players they need more practice than they're allowed.  we're gonna have to get someone more mobile.  i want jalen, but we'll see what happens.   

I don't doubt it. Overall OL play in the NFL certainly seems to be at an all-time low. Something is going on there.

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8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I see the potential for him to be a long-term stable backup QB. As a starter? No, I don't see the potential there. Sorry, I just don't.

If we had a decent oline I think he could be a solid starter.

Granted if we had that, it's likely we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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Allen has serious problems completing passes > 25 yards.  Serious problems.  It is peculiar because he makes very difficult throws right up to that point, and does them without a ton of trouble.  But anything beyond that? yeesh.

Allen could be a good backup, but I do not think he is a long-term starter for us.

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As the hits and pressures seem to come more often, his composure and decision making went away.  He seems to be just getting rid of the ball now.

David Carr got shook as a rookie because he was knocked around like a rag doll.  Seems that Allen is heading that direction.

The NFL has a ton of guys who would look great if they had a ton of protection.  At this point, the Panthers cannot protect and Allen can't find his way.

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