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Luke Kuechly retires


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2 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Haha I thought you might see that last one. I’m entitled to my opinion man, just like everyone else here. You don’t have to like it but to have some keyboard gangster personally attack me in a clear, blatant violation of rules because I said something he didn’t like isn’t cool. 

I'm not going to sit idle as someone trashes one of the greatest Panthers of all time.

This is a Panthers message board, maybe you need to revalaute your target audience and find some thicker skin.

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4 minutes ago, BrizzMachete said:

It’s not that we not listening . It’s that’s Nobody wants to lose as fans all we want is wins . No fan base should ever be okay with a rebuild if that mean losing a lot of games . But today we just may have to face reality 

...just think of it as a controlled tanking....

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4 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

I am not ok with a major rebuild. How long have the Hornets been rebuilding? 

Exactly lol i don’t think we that bad that we need a major rebuild maybe In the front office but not on the field . But that’s what they want so it is what it is . How many teams have a franchise qb and saying nah we don’t want him we want a rebuild  . Hell saints and pats hanging on for dear life to keep their qbs that are pushing 50 lol says a lot about us and our situation it’s backwards . 

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3 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

I feel sad that he feels like he can't play up to NFL standards anymore. This 3-4 switch Rivera came up with killed him.

Many of us said the same thing about Cam when RR Shula were calling QB dives and traps and options--We are seeing the results of a "Me now" coach who was given nearly a decade to not win a SB--we had better athletes and should have 2 rings-but better coaches beat our better athletes---Thanks RR---for trashing the guys who saved your career and made the world think you were legit.  Washington will fire you in 2-3 years,and you can Retire knowing that you scammed the league.

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4 minutes ago, WoahW said:

fug off cocksucker. Dude literally could already have signs of CTE and retired as one of if not the best player in franchise history. If you’re that fuging insecure that you are acting like he’s being a snake or a traitor then go back home and tell mommy and daddy they shouldn’t have fuged you up so much as a kid 

shocked my name is earl GIF

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