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Players I Like: Patrick Queen


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1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Is he really all the way up to the 2nd round now?  

Most have him top 40 overall

A few have him the #2 LB behind Simmons.  And his stock is expected to shoot up more at the combine.  Kid isnt quite the Freak Devin White is, but is a Solid athlete.

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2 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Most have him top 40 overall

A few have him the #2 LB behind Simmons.  And his stock is expected to shoot up more at the combine.  Kid isnt quite the Freak Devin White is, but is a Solid athlete.

What I've seen of him, reminds me a lot of a young Thomas Davis.

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I have not paid much attention to college football this year--moving to a new house and developing my awesomely-impressive Panther intelligence (as if I had to state the obvious :thinking:) so I can say this--I was watching the LSU-Clemson game, and I remember thinking "The best LB on the field may not play for Clemson." 

Of course that was an exaggeration, but he kept catching my eye and I had never heard of him.

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52 minutes ago, SOJA said:

Unless Tua falls to 7 I'm all for trading down. We have so many holes on this team and need as many picks as we can possibly get in rounds 1-3

I do not think he will, but who knows? If Tua is not ready to go next season, will a GM in the top 6 want to put their #1 pick on layaway?  Most of those guys are in trouble anyway.  They could convince themselves that a healthy Herbert who can play in 2020 is better than a gimpy Tua.   Most of those GMs are on the hot seat and taking a flyer on a player like Tua that does not pay immediate results could be a death sentence--the Panthers might be the only team in the first 8 picks that has a patient, long-term plan.

I think (this is January and the draft is in April--so what could happen to change things?)  that Tua drops and Herbert rises.

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