Rhule on Cam

[WarHeel]

30 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm a huge Cam fan and I hope like hell that he's here next year but I'm not sure what you think you're accomplishing by refusing to accept the reality that there's the possibility that he won't be.

Exactly

[mrcompletely11]

I also think its hysterical that people that think that even if Cam is 100% healthy we are going to get a 2015 version of him.  There is no way on Gods green earth that he is going to be the runner that he was and to me that is what made Cam so lethal.  After all the injuries to numerous body parts its just not reasonable to expect him to do the same things.

[ickmule]

What did y’all expect Rhule to say? We still know noting.  

[Tarheel119]

2015 Cam is a great player and one I’d love to see again. With that said, I don’t believe you’re going to see the uber athletic ability any longer. Joe Brady’s offense, at least from watch LSU, looks to need an accurate passer, which is not exactly Cam’s strong suit. However, I’m excited to see how all of it shakes out. It should be the most interesting off season we’ve had in a while.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I also think its hysterical that people that think that even if Cam is 100% healthy we are going to get a 2015 version of him.  There is no way on Gods green earth that he is going to be the runner that he was and to me that is what made Cam so lethal.  After all the injuries to numerous body parts its just not reasonable to expect him to do the same things.

The foot is the only injury he's had that might impact his running ability.

[1of10Charnatives]

10 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The foot is the only injury he's had that might impact his running ability.

Even if he had never had the foot injury, or the shoulder, would you consider it wise to run a 30 year old qb or older double digit times per game? I think that's an aspect of this everyone has mostly overlooked, that even if Cam is 100% healthy, he should have been downshifting the running as he became a more veteran qb and able to be effective from the pocket. I think it's now fairly imperative that if we wish to keep him long term, running must become the last resort, not part of the game plan.  The unanswered question is how effective he can be when this part of his game is removed. But especially after watching how poorly the league and it's officiating crews protect him from illegal hits the last four years, I don't want to put him at any greater risk than necessary.

[LxDunn]

14 hours ago, mjligon said:

In before some random Huddle nobody questions this guys credibility 

Lol, you know it's gonna happen

[1of10Charnatives]

2 hours ago, WarHeel said:

He said he hadn’t spoken to or in regard to any players on literally the first day on the job. 
 

 

If you think he got through a several hours long interview in his home with Tepper and Hurney and the topic of one Cam Newton and his future with the team never came up, I have some real estate opportunities I'd like to discuss with you. I think it's entirely possible he was told no decision has been reached yet. I don't think it's even remotely possible he wasn't discussed.

[Butterflyj30]

This is what I like to hear 

[WarHeel]

10 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

If you think he got through a several hours long interview in his home with Tepper and Hurney and the topic of one Cam Newton and his future with the team never came up, I have some real estate opportunities I'd like to discuss with you. I think it's entirely possible he was told no decision has been reached yet. I don't think it's even remotely possible he wasn't discussed.

Not sure how me reiterating what he said to the media has anything to do with how he actually feels or has said behind closed doors.

 

That actually builds my point. This could be him stating he hopes Cam is back or could be a big smokescreen for a future trade. No one knows so we should all stop pretending to and stop getting butt hurt whenever someone even hints at the possibility that Cam won’t be here next year because there’s a fairly strong case for either option.

[micnificent28]

16 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

what signs?

The ones you been ignoring and will continue 2 because this isnt what you want. This quote is one of them.

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

10 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Cam is going to want a mega deal after this season (if not sooner).   And that is not in line with what tepper wants. 

Citation needed.  Considering Tepper has literally said that "all options are on the table".

[mrcompletely11]

5 hours ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Citation needed.  Considering Tepper has literally said that "all options are on the table".

https://www.panthers.com/news/david-tepper-interview-transcript-ron-rivera-head-coach

"By the way, the last time I looked, there's three quarterbacks on this team. Kyle Allen, who you've seen a lot of, still young. Wil Grier, who hasn't been in yet, who we're developing in a very traditional way, who may be very good at some point, and Cam Newton. So, there's a lot of possibilities here for somebody to look at if they want to come here, and we're not weighed down by $36 million a year mistakes right now."

 

Pretty crystal clear how he feels about a mega contract in regards to building a team

 

[1of10Charnatives]

9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

https://www.panthers.com/news/david-tepper-interview-transcript-ron-rivera-head-coach

"By the way, the last time I looked, there's three quarterbacks on this team. Kyle Allen, who you've seen a lot of, still young. Wil Grier, who hasn't been in yet, who we're developing in a very traditional way, who may be very good at some point, and Cam Newton. So, there's a lot of possibilities here for somebody to look at if they want to come here, and we're not weighed down by $36 million a year mistakes right now."

 

Pretty crystal clear how he feels about a mega contract in regards to building a team

 

The highlighted statement does not say to me Tepper is against paying any qb 36 mil. As a businessman he will know that you have to pay the market rate for any scarce premium commodity and that is definitely franchise qb’s . What the highlighted statement says to me is he’s against paying 36 mil for a qb who’s not worth it because a premature or emotional decision was made by a GM or owner not being completely rational.

*pauses to look at JR and Hurney and all those Hurney 1.0 extensions*

I don’t think the statement is crystal clear at all. I think anyone could easily put one of several slants on it. The one that makes the most sense to me given situational context is this is Tepper’s way of saying “we’ll pay Cam the market rate, but only if he comes back next year and demonstrates he’s worth it,”

As always YMMV