Marty's enormous BRAIN

[TheCasillas]

6 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

May have, but since the jury is still out on him, it changes little.  Is that your offering to the discussion? Thanks, if so.

QQ: Why does Hurney not get credit for Norman? If RR played him, it would have been more than "one season" (Ill argue that it wasnt just one season) and the Otah thing isnt Hurney's fault. When healthy Otah was a mauler. You can't predict injuries, and no GM should be held to that.

[thefuzz]

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Just to confirm I am following correctly, if it was a good pick and motivated by Norv (or a coach), then Hurney doesn't get credit, but if it was a bad pick motivated by a coach, Hurney takes the fall?

No, if the name is called, it goes on the GM's resume.

[TheCasillas]

Just now, thefuzz said:

No, if the name is called, it goes on the GM's resume.

might want to run that by OP

[thefuzz]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

might want to run that by OP

Nah, if you are the GM, and the name is called on your watch, it is your call.

That way I don't have to do mental gymnastics to figure out who to blame and when.

[MHS831]

What made me decide to create this thread:

1.  It is the offseason and the threads get stale.

2. I was doing mocks, and the mocks I was doing, I kept wanting to draft certain positions based on need and the depth of the draft at that position.

3. I wondered if the GM does the same thing--gets stuck on some position that makes him feel vulnerable--something he failed to address in free agency--creating a bias.  While Marty's first rounds are strong, they are basically safe--LBs and RBs tend to provide more immediate returns than other positions.  Does this suggest that Mary is insecure and needs instant gratification to validate his role?  I don't know--he may not even be aware.  However, his choices over time form a pattern--but 55 is correct to an extent--their are a lot of voices involved, but only one trigger, and the GM pulls it.

People are creatures of habit.  I have compared Tepper's philosophy as a hedge fund manager to an owner, a coach's decision making to his job security/insecurity, and now the GM.  When something works for you, you stick to it.  I dated blondes from the North my entire life.  I married a blond from Ohio.  Did I think about it?  Nope.  Not until someone else pointed it out.  I always buy people the same gifts I got them the year before.  I buy the same color shirts and pants for work.  My wife (the sometimes loud blond from Ohio) calls me on it. Habits of Mind--read up on it. It is a thing

[TheCasillas]

7 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I have compared Tepper's philosophy as a hedge fund manager to an owner, a coach's decision making to his job security/insecurity, and now the GM.

was this another thread? or are you saying you've done research about tepper's thought process compared to other owners.... id be very interested to see what you came up with. 

 

Just a heads up, there are now people on our staff we hired that is supposed to do internal scouting/consulting on our "habits" 

 

The Rams and Patriots brought this concept into the league and it is now being adopted by many teams league wide. So it's gonna be tough to predict what we are going to do considering this. 

[Happy Panther]

27 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

 

3. I wondered if the GM does the same thing--gets stuck on some position that makes him feel vulnerable--something he failed to address in free agency--creating a bias.  While Marty's first rounds are strong, they are basically safe--LBs and RBs tend to provide more immediate returns than other positions. 

Yeah but his RB and LB picks have been insane talent. Who cares if they are safe picks? Any GM in the league would take what Marty has done in the first round with safe picks:

Thomas Davis. 

DeAngelo Williams

Jon Beason

Jonathan Stewart

Luke Kuechly

Brown was a bust and Burns is TBD.

This seems to be the new thought process to discredit Hurney's obvious success in the first round. He also nailed QB (yeah not Clausen), DL, OL, WR and CB.

[Madwolf]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They drafted a QB #6 overall last year.

And he was legit for a rookie. Not sure what planet he lives on thinking they need a QB. 

[1of10Charnatives]

2 hours ago, Harbingers said:

@MHS831 he’s gonna draft a QB. Steel yourself to that fact right now. 

Before I do that, can you document your record in predicting Hurney’s 1st round picks in the past so I know how accurate you’ve been?

[Harbingers]

2 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Before I do that, can you document your record in predicting Hurney’s 1st round picks in the past so I know how accurate you’ve been?

New owner. 

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, TheCasillas said:

was this another thread? or are you saying you've done research about tepper's thought process compared to other owners.... id be very interested to see what you came up with. 

 

Just a heads up, there are now people on our staff we hired that is supposed to do internal scouting/consulting on our "habits" 

 

The Rams and Patriots brought this concept into the league and it is now being adopted by many teams league wide. So it's gonna be tough to predict what we are going to do considering this. 

Not what I would call research, just an analysis of the strategic thinking aligned with how a hedge fund manager succeeds. Aligning that with the job.  In my job, we do a lot of metacognition.  It is incredibly interesting.  So since this is an outlet, it is interesting to give it a whirl here.  Teams already do it--they call it "tendencies."  So I ask, "What if GMs have tendencies?"  Owners?  so when you get into the depth of decision-making, it is often aligned with methods that are tried and true for the individual.  Not trying to make a science of it, but I am interested because in every case study I have read and performed, one basic conclusion is addressed:  People are creatures of habit and so is the brain.  Part of sport is (should be) figuring out the psyche of the opponent.   How did Luke know what plays the offense was going to run?  He took in a variety of variables he observed on film, analyzed the situation and personnel, and called their play--he was in their head.  So we do this all the time--familiarity makes it easier--we just dont think about thinking about how others are thinking.  (Inception, sorta).

[1of10Charnatives]

1 minute ago, Harbingers said:

New owner. 

And?

new owner is a blank slate. You’re effectively guaranteeing something you’re less likely to know than what Marty will do. Talk us through your reasoning and present your case for what you think will happen and why. Pretending you can read the minds or know the decisions of people you don’t know personally just comes off as silly.

[philit99]

I’m not defending Marty on the Jake Delhomme contract, but I seem to remember Mark Richardson having a hand in the deal, while pops was out having heart surgery. As soon as pops was back boom both Mark and Jon were gone. I think there was some shared responsibility for that one, among other issues.

[Harbingers]

1 minute ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

And?

new owner is a blank slate. You’re effectively guaranteeing something you’re less likely to know than what Marty will do. Talk us through your reasoning and present your case for what you think will happen and why. Pretending you can read the minds or know the decisions of people you don’t know personally just comes off as silly.

If you would like to riddle, than why would Hurney be trying to offload cam to the chargers who pick before us and need a QB?