Corona Virus

[stirs]

21 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Checkout the videos of NYC from this past weekend. Maybe 5% mask usage in these big street parties. 
 

Of all the places....

They have eliminated all the elderly up there, so it might not matter. 

 

Sarcasm of course

[45catfan]

I just wish they would hurry up with a vaccine already.  A vaccine would calm people down.  Prioritize health care workers and the most vulnerable and then work our way down.  There are some being tested now,  hopefully they can get cleared and start getting people their shots before winter.

[kungfoodude]

Mask usage in Detroit/Ann Arbor/Grand Rapids is pretty low. There are still places that require them to enter but the overall usage has dropped visibly in the past 3 weeks.

As I said, people are just over it. 

[kungfoodude]

21 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I just wish they would hurry up with a vaccine already.  A vaccine would calm people down.  Prioritize health care workers and the most vulnerable and then work our way down.  There are some being tested now,  hopefully they can get cleared and start getting people their shots before winter.

I still believe that a good vaccine is going to lag significantly behind what people's expectations are. Hopefully I am wrong about that.

[CRA]

35 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I just wish they would hurry up with a vaccine already.  A vaccine would calm people down.  Prioritize health care workers and the most vulnerable and then work our way down.  There are some being tested now,  hopefully they can get cleared and start getting people their shots before winter.

I wouldn't rush to get in line to take a vaccine that was ready by Oct/Nov. 

[45catfan]

16 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I still believe that a good vaccine is going to lag significantly behind what people's expectations are. Hopefully I am wrong about that.

Heck, even one that's 50% effective is better than nothing.  It's no different than the seasonal flu shot where they have no idea going into the "flu season" which strain will be most prevalent.  That's the reason people still catch the flu despite getting a shot.  The point is it saves some people from getting sick or worse, dying, while giving the populace in general the idea that they are safe.

The flu season a couple of years ago claimed an estimated 61,000 lives.  This was with a vaccine available.  

Edited June 15, 2020 by 45catfan

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I wouldn't rush to get in line to take a vaccine that was ready by Oct/Nov. 

I won't either unless I'm mandated to.  I've never voluntarily taken a vaccine, only when I've had to.  As I get older, that may change.  If I were an elderly person during this pandemic, I would certainly think about it.

[CRA]

10 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I won't either unless I'm mandated to.  I've never voluntarily taken a vaccine, only when I've had to.  As I get older, that may change.  If I were an elderly person during this pandemic, I would certainly think about it.

well, I am pro vaccine.  

but if one is ready before this winter it would be put out too quickly for me to line up to get one.  

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

I won't either unless I'm mandated to.  I've never voluntarily taken a vaccine, only when I've had to.  As I get older, that may change.  If I were an elderly person during this pandemic, I would certainly think about it.

I have never had the flu vaccine. Just had the flu once in my life. I will probably start doing it when I get older and am at a higher risk.

 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

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For the fourth day running, the Texas Department of Health on Monday reported the highest number of coronavirus patients in hospitals since the pandemic began, while the state has seen a surge in cases and the number of people testing positive for the virus.

 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

2 hours ago, Tbe said:

Checkout the videos of NYC from this past weekend. Maybe 5% mask usage in these big street parties. 
 

Of all the places....

Trust me, we're wearing masks.

Those videos you saw were from "happy hour" streets in the Village and SoHo full of young, mostly liberal, fairly well off douchebags drinking their craft beer and wine. They just HAVE to be seen. Go a WEEK without drinking with Chad and Sara? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???

[45catfan]

*Knocks on wood*  The death rate is still inching down.  I hope the trend continues!   The confirmed cases are obviously still climbing, but the death curve is flattening out and has been heading that way for a little while.

 

Edited June 15, 2020 by 45catfan

[onmyown]

I never trusted the flu vaccines and have personally know two people who have had horrendous side effects. If I have the flu, my ass stays home. But I haven’t had the flu in 20 years.

I wouldn’t get the COVID initially vaccine either. I’d wait and let others be the Guinea pigs first. After that I’d still have to think about it.

[4Corners]

3 hours ago, stirs said:

You are a visionary for sure

The medical numbers have told us since Jan to keep older folks and those with underlying health conditions safe.  For all the hyperbole and sensational headlines, it pretty much stands true today.  Like we were arguing 300 pages ago, if we could keep grandma away from the grandchildren, we could have operated like normal and probably not have shut the economy down.

But, we shut the world down and did not keep grandma safe, we moved Covid patients into grandmas room.

Dr Scholls indeed might have done a better job

Wow what a stupid thing to write