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5 hours ago, Inimicus said:

Seriously dude

Screenshots from your phone with no actual link to the stories are pretty much ass.

yeah i almost said something earlier, like who does that, post a link like a normal person

it's 2020 do you not know how to use the internet yet

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10 hours ago, Shufdog said:

 It really hasn't been that much cooler. We are actually tied with last year for the 27th warmest.

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It has definitely been cooler in the areas I've been in.

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5 hours ago, Coheed said:

"Doctors of all disciplines"

 

 

Googled like 15 names on the list cause I was curious. Not a single epidemiologist. 

I’m confused as to why that matters. First, I believe that they are saying doctors in a medical doctor sense. Epidemiologists are typical PhD’s. Second, the point was about mental and physical health issues. Being an epidemiologist would seem to have nothing to do with this letter whether you agree or disagree. They would be on the side of avoiding any spread versus this side which is saying there’s a lot of harm to people in other ways due to the continued shutdown. I wouldn’t expect epidemiologists to sign this letter. I’d expect psychiatrists and all sorts of medical doctors.

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5 hours ago, Coheed said:

"Doctors of all disciplines"

 

 

Googled like 15 names on the list cause I was curious. Not a single epidemiologist. 

I'm guessing you didn't read the article?

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11 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

I'm guessing you didn't read the article?

Our country is generally not concerned with what is being said, only with who said it.  Cuts out all the critical thinking mumbo jumbo

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5 hours ago, Coheed said:

"Doctors of all disciplines"

 

 

Googled like 15 names on the list cause I was curious. Not a single epidemiologist. 

people have this really big problem understanding how job responsibilities are broken down among the medical profession. Like at their accounting firm or oil change shop they can tell you exactly what every single members role is and how it differs etc. But generally people hear doctor and think all health. That is incredibly incorrect. 

The people you want to listen to here are...

infectious disease - smartest people in med school go into ID. 

virologists - they study viruses

epidemiologists - they study how things spread

pulm/internal med/intensivists - these are the ones taking care of people after they're tubed or convalescing 

For things like this, look at what they do, what their exposure would be, and why we should listen to what they say about country wide policy. What does an emed doctor do here? Looks at a CT and sends them upstairs. The fact she's going on Fox news and complaining about a drug we know to do nothing being politicized, well, that should tell you all you need to know. 

This could also be like those old right wing 1,000 SCIENTISTS DENY CLIMATE CHANGE. Then it turned out half were meteorologists and the other half just had a problem with one piece of data out of a corner of canada but never actually denied the broader science.

Or the last time earlier this year where the list was just posted online and anyone could sign it. Unless there really is a Dr. Weedlord BonerHitler who works in proctology. 

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3 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

people have this really big problem understanding how job responsibilities are broken down among the medical profession. Like at their accounting firm or oil change shop they can tell you exactly what every single members role is and how it differs etc. But generally people hear doctor and think all health. That is incredibly incorrect. 

The people you want to listen to here are...

infectious disease - smartest people in med school go into ID. 

virologists - they study viruses

epidemiologists - they study how things spread

pulm/internal med/intensivists - these are the ones taking care of people after they're tubed or convalescing 

For things like this, look at what they do, what their exposure would be, and why we should listen to what they say about country wide policy. What does an emed doctor do here? Looks at a CT and sends them upstairs. The fact she's going on Fox news and complaining about a drug we know to do nothing being politicized, well, that should tell you all you need to know. 

This could also be like those old right wing 1,000 SCIENTISTS DENY CLIMATE CHANGE. Then it turned out half were meteorologists and the other half just had a problem with one piece of data out of a corner of canada but never actually denied the broader science.

Or the last time earlier this year where the list was just posted online and anyone could sign it. Unless there really is a Dr. Weedlord BonerHitler who works in proctology. 

We are sorry to inform you that your job has been outsourced to a team of Russian nurses.  They are cheaper.....in many senses of the word

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Just now, stirs said:

Our country is generally not concerned with what is being said, only with who said it.  Cuts out all the critical thinking mumbo jumbo

I definitely understand the "argument from authority" angle people try to use.  But in this case I think he tried it, without reading what the article was about.  Its kind of like having football coaches talking about challenges they are having with COVID and their team, and someone says "only someone who specializes in viruses can tell you that!"  Wait...what?

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

people have this really big problem understanding how job responsibilities are broken down among the medical profession. Like at their accounting firm or oil change shop they can tell you exactly what every single members role is and how it differs etc. But generally people hear doctor and think all health. That is incredibly incorrect. 

The people you want to listen to here are...

infectious disease - smartest people in med school go into ID. 

virologists - they study viruses

epidemiologists - they study how things spread

pulm/internal med/intensivists - these are the ones taking care of people after they're tubed or convalescing 

For things like this, look at what they do, what their exposure would be, and why we should listen to what they say about country wide policy. What does an emed doctor do here? Looks at a CT and sends them upstairs. The fact she's going on Fox news and complaining about a drug we know to do nothing being politicized, well, that should tell you all you need to know. 

This could also be like those old right wing 1,000 SCIENTISTS DENY CLIMATE CHANGE. Then it turned out half were meteorologists and the other half just had a problem with one piece of data out of a corner of canada but never actually denied the broader science.

Or the last time earlier this year where the list was just posted online and anyone could sign it. Unless there really is a Dr. Weedlord BonerHitler who works in proctology. 

So those doctors that you named are trained in alcohol abuse? 

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You have to walk the line between economics and health and safety.  Even within those 2 groups, there are many considerations on economics and many on health and safety that all have to be considered.  Ripple effects to quick and short sighted answers to large problems

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35 minutes ago, stirs said:

We are sorry to inform you that your job has been outsourced to a team of Russian nurses.  They are cheaper.....in many senses of the word

All the scab nurses come from like Micronesia, at least in Asheville. 

In Asheville all the russians work in waste management and that one dry cleaning place near biltmore. 

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i think that's basically the playbook now, say something stupid and ridiculous and outlandish, almost forcing a response and correction, just to steer the conversation away from legitimate concerns and then stupid people will still be like "well I guess (when confronted with obvious lies and nonsense vs. hard facts and science) the truth is somewhere in the middle"

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4 minutes ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

i think that's basically the playbook now, say something stupid and ridiculous and outlandish, almost forcing a response and correction, just to steer the conversation away from legitimate concerns and then stupid people will still be like "well I guess (when confronted with obvious lies and nonsense vs. hard facts and science) the truth is somewhere in the middle"

I had a patient yesterday asking if he should take it because the president told him to. 

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