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1 hour ago, Tbe said:

So if X% of the population decides to not get the vaccine, they should be fired? That’s some authoritarian poo there.

I get it for schools and healthcare workers, but jeez.

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Unless they work from home, sure. Working for a particular company isn’t a right. If they don’t want to expose anyone unnecessarily then I don’t see the issue. If you don’t want the vaccine, home school your kid who’s likely not going to school without the vaccine. If the vaccine isn’t easy to get at first then the employee should be able to continue to work from home. Essential workers should get the vaccine first, i.e. the people who have to be at work.

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The World Health Organization walked back comments made Monday when one of its top scientists said transmission of the coronavirus by people who never developed symptoms is “very rare,” which drew skepticism from physicians and others across social media.

That admission sent shock waves throughout the world, much of which has been locked down for months for fear of spreading the virus by people who show no signs of illness.

Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of the WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said Tuesday that asymptomatic spread is a “really complex question” and much is still unknown. “We don’t actually have that answer yet,” she said.

 

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35 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

well in healthcare we don't talk about acceptable casualty rates so

Fair enough, but there's a reality that most people are willing to accept some risk to live their lives and to provide for their families.

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55 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

well in healthcare we don't talk about acceptable casualty rates so

And this right here is the disconnect between public health officials, medical professions, and much of the public.

Zero acceptable casualty  is a great target for the medical industry. It’s not that simple when creating public policy in a free society. 
 

 

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3 hours ago, Tbe said:

So if X% of the population decides to not get the vaccine, they should be fired? That’s some authoritarian poo there.

I get it for schools and healthcare workers, but jeez.

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The hospital system I work for requires a flu shot for every employee, whether you are actually working with patients or not unless you can get a medical/religious waiver. I've never worked in a doctors office or hospital setting and the last 2 years I've worked from home. Still required to get a flu shot.

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1 hour ago, Tbe said:

And this right here is the disconnect between public health officials, medical professions, and much of the public.

Zero acceptable casualty  is a great target for the medical industry. It’s not that simple when creating public policy in a free society. 
 

 

Can't believe no one has run on that "acceptable percentage of deaths" platform. 

Also the one european country that famously tried this has been predictably one of the worst struck. And they're like the healthiest country in the world. All the swedes do is play volleyball, fug, and hide nazi gold. 

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11 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Can't believe no one has run on that "acceptable percentage of deaths" platform. 

We technically do that every time we elect someone who doesn’t ban driving, flying, swimming in the ocean, etc.

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3 hours ago, Tbe said:

We technically do that every time we elect someone who doesn’t ban driving, flying, swimming in the ocean, etc.

Exactly.  Anything less than a full lockdown from now until eternity is admitting there is an acceptable level of death.

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