Steve Smith: Bridgewater is QB for "right now"

[45catfan]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Well, FIU too 

But what if we were the ones to take him in that round (or earlier)?

This place would freaking explode.  The guy has the tools, but needs to sit a season or two.   Grier has left a bad taste in a lot of folks mouths, including my own.   I had a few early mocks taking Morgan in the 6th or 7th, but then he became a hot commodity.  Even though I think he's an intriguing prospect, we can't blow a 4th round pick on a backup QB with this Swiss cheese roster.  Some say he'll be the next QB to go after Fromm.  I think it's unlikely, but next 2-3 afterward, absolutely.

[stbugs]

41 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He should've been our modern day Jimmy Clausen. Put him out there and let him deliver that #1 pick. Instead, we sign a bandaid in Bridgewater and we'll probably win just enough games to be picking in the same range next year.

No poo. It’s so obvious we have so many holes to fill that we can’t possibly be a playoff team. I just don’t understand wasting cap space (Short, Teddy and Anderson are about $80M combined the next two years), wasting comp picks and trying to fug up a golden opportunity to get a real franchise QB. Yes, there are no guarantees but Lawrence and Fields, maybe a Burrow out there too, are going to likely be the best rated duo to come out in many years.

My plan wasn’t fool proof but I’d bet thousands that not signing FAs to blow our 3rd, 4th and 5th comp pick, dumping Short to build up a 2022/2023 war chest (w/FA $$$s saved) for the top two FAs or Franchise trades and letting Grier guide us to the promised land would have a much better chance than whatever the fug we are doing right now.

ETA: Don’t forget Weinke. He was Clausen first and got us Peppers and Gross back to back to get ready for that SB run. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

No poo. It’s so obvious we have so many holes to fill that we can’t possibly be a playoff team. I just don’t understand wasting cap space (Short, Teddy and Anderson are about $80M combined the next two years), wasting comp picks and trying to fug up a golden opportunity to get a real franchise QB. Yes, there are no guarantees but Lawrence and Fields, maybe a Burrow out there too, are going to likely be the best rated duo to come out in many years.

My plan wasn’t fool proof but I’d bet thousands that not signing FAs to blow our 3rd, 4th and 5th comp pick, dumping Short to build up a 2022/2023 war chest (w/FA $$$s saved) for the top two FAs or Franchise trades and letting Grier guide us to the promised land would have a much better chance than whatever the fug we are doing right now.

It's almost as if we have a GM who has absolutely no idea what he's doing...

[MMA]

Did not see that it was already posted. We will draft Tua. I’m calling it. I don’t see why you bring a OC like Joe Brady from college to pair him up with Teddy even with the connection they did have in New Orleans. Tua is a perfect match for Brady. 

[stbugs]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's almost as if we have a GM who has absolutely no idea what he's doing...

I think we’ve proven he has no idea. Looking at his day 2 results the past two years even with an extra 3rd rounder both years is honestly upsetting.

[Shocker]

Loved Steve on the field but he gives some cringe worthy opinions that many times don't make sense or are roll the eyes obvious.

[MMA]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

Think about it---we are all trying to fill holes on this roster--like poking fingers into the holes in a damn when there are more holes than fingers.  If you have a true long-term plan, you start by solidifying the OT (and maybe C)spots, some young WRs, a QB, and some pass rushers.

We could be all wrong about the draft. 

I even predict that the team making the biggest surprise move in the first round could be the Panthers.

US?  We are not considering a LT because we have Little/Okung for a year.  We are not considering (seriously) QB because we have Bridgewater for 2 years guaranteed.  We are in the midst of the best WR draft in history, and we are dismissing a serious WR early. 

We are chasing OLBs and DTs in the first round--and maybe that is good to do, considering the talent.   But if our focus was on OT, QB, WR, and DE, we would be approaching this totally differently......

 

You hit the nail!

[onmyown]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Well, there is some credence being lent to the theory that not everybody in the building is on the same page as far as the "win now" vs "build for the future" question.

We’ve been in ‘win mode’ since the super bowl, and since the super bowl we have barley averaged 7 wins a season.

It’s not really win or build mode right now...it’s change mode. Change was needed, desperately and with change you can’t grantee wins. Too much talent to full on rebuild, teams rarely fully rebuild anyways but when the do the little talent they have they trade, and that talent is usually older (not an 8th overall pick two year prior playing the best at his position in the entire league and league’s history). Change things up, see what sticks and go from there.

Some fans are simple minded though. It needs to be black and white. Are we trying to win? Or trying to rebuild? The answer can never be in the middle or we will wait and see. A losing season means to rebuild and a winning me means we are fine. Both are not true, a little change might just be needed. 
 

And the timeline isn’t one single season. Another concept that seems hard to grasp.

Then throw the fact Panther fans aren’t used to change. JR would drive mediocrity in the ground as long as business was good. He’d rarely change anything (Wafford, commercials, game environment). I think our opening song for players coming out of the tunnel has been the same for 20 years...lol. It’s pathetic, but what fans have been accustom to. So all this poo makes creates and unknown and fear which in turn, turns these fans into full blown morons.

[Mr. Scot]

21 minutes ago, onmyown said:

It’s not really win or build mode right now...it’s change mode. 

See, that kinda depends on who you ask.

Apparently not everyone is on the same page with regard to that question.

[stirs]

Jordan Love in the 2nd.  His stock is dropping

[Mr. Scot]

29 minutes ago, stirs said:

Jordan Love in the 2nd.  His stock is dropping

If his stock is dropping, do I really wanna take him in the second?

The Panthers success rate when they take players that other teams pass on ain't good.

[Chief Keek]

Even Smitty knows to Tank for Trevor

[stirs]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

If his stock is dropping, do I really wanna take him in the second?

The Panthers success rate when they take players that other teams pass on ain't good.

Unless you are picking number 1, EVERY player is one that other teams have passed on.

 

Mitch Hedberg, great comedian, once said, "I hate it when people show you their picture and say, this is me when I was younger.  EVERY picture is of you when you were younger"

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, stirs said:

Unless you are picking number 1, EVERY player is one that other teams have passed on.

Granted, but when they start really sliding, there's generally a reason.

Among the droppers we've taken in the past are Rashard Anderson, Greg Hardy, Rae Carruth and of course Jimmy Clausen.

In all those cases, we thought we were getting steals.