Person “Rhule was open to and eager to trade down in first”

[jfra78]

6 hours ago, ecu88 said:

A new era is here my frens.

I believe Hurney and Rhule will turn things around here. The communication between them and Rhule having a concrete vision with rebuilding skills, we will prob be back in the playoffs as soon as next year.

 

Can we Ban this pic?

[Snake]

6 hours ago, Pazhoosier89 said:

Say what you want but this draft has Rhules fingerprints all over it especially after the first round.  It does not look like a Hurney draft to me.

I don't have to say anything. The article is proof Hurney shut Rhule down to pick his guy. This is Hurneys draft. 

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

In my opinion--and that is the key phrase (based on no more info than anyone else has)--Marty has already made stupid moves when his job was on the line.  Everette Brown rings a bell--Clausen, Edwards, Norwood--what was that?

You nor I know what goes through a head when a person makes a decision--when your job is on the line, your brain acts differently than when you are secure (see amygdala, hippocampus, limbic system---basically, the elements of survival or defense mode).  It is a natural human response and everyone experiences it to some degree.  So, if Marty felt anxiety about his job and the first round ticked down to #7, it is reasonable to have those kinds of thoughts cross your mind. Especially when he is making a pick at a position where he has NEVER found a keeper.  Imagine a baseball player stepping into the box vs. a pitcher he has faced for 10 years and never got a hit.  You think thoughts like that do not cross his mind?  Human nature.  Not only did Marty know this, I knew it too--that explains my reasoning for speculating.

I even posted "I am not endorsing these points, but they crossed my mind."  You see, desperate people do desperate things, and if MH is feeling heat, the things I mentioned could have crossed his mind too.  It would have been natural to have those kinds of thoughts.  Marty is human.

I mean...you can speculate on general human psyche all you want, but I think the more useful and applicable tool we have is historical precedent. Nothing you just mentioned above is relevant specifically to the point that Hurney is unwilling to admit he made a mistake, which is all I was refuting. I actually think that is one of his better qualities...that he is able to move forward if one of his picks doesn’t pan out.

Again, why would Marty trade for Okung if he was unwilling to admit he made a mistake about Little? Why draft Cam first overall, immediately after drafting Clausen in the second round the year before? If that’s not admission of a mistake, then I don’t know what is.

I know this is a bit nitpicky about one tiny bullet point from your much longer post, but I just see that point reiterated so many times on these boards and it makes no sense to me. Hurney has plenty of bad qualities to criticize, not sure why people feel the need to make up new ones.

[RASTAN66]

As it goes to the business/management operations of the Panthers....

....Joe Person is 100% clueless. 

He literally has no idea how it works.

[jfra78]

5 minutes ago, RASTAN66 said:

As it goes to the business/management operations of the Panthers....

....Joe Person is 100% clueless. 

He literally has no idea how it works.

I'm sure he has a better idea of how it works than you do.  

[RASTAN66]

1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

I'm sure he has a better idea of how it works than you do.  

You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

JP thought Kestenbaum was a legit buyer and might move the team to Canada...LOL.

[carpanfan96]

48 minutes ago, RASTAN66 said:

You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

JP thought Kestenbaum was a legit buyer and might move the team to Canada...LOL.

That was before ownership change and before he moved to the Athletic, where his reporting has been much better. 

[RASTAN66]

Just now, carpanfan96 said:

That was before ownership change and before he moved to the Athletic, where his reporting has been much better. 

Blah blah blah...

[MMA]

I don’t care what Hurney do in the 1st round. Just don’t do anything after the 1st

[SOJA]

we can make an assumption that the Bucs offered us, and we can also assume that one of Brown, Simmons, Henderson or Kinlaw would have been there at 15 if that were the case

But let's be real we would have used that trade capital to trade back up into the first to get YGM so it's all a moot point lol 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Don't do this to yourselves guys, what's done is done. 

[pantherclaw]

Hurney admits his mistakes. Do sorry he doesn't make a fan video to do it. 

[thefuzz]

Trading back there is the right long term move, however I have no major issue with staying put.

While it was a position of GREAT need, I'm not too much on non passing rushing DT's in the top ten...but water under the bridge now.

 

[thefuzz]

Also, can we please stop with the Hurney's draft, DG's draft, Rhules draft.....etc?

If a man or woman is the GM when an NFL draft occurs, and that team makes selections, it's whomever that person is's draft...why do we do mental gymnastics?

Same with team wins and losses, it's just stupid.