Tomlin gives some Steelers' secret sauce! The FO might want to take note.

[raz]

where the holy fu%& is the milkshake?

[Tbe]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I think the genetics help but the even bigger portion is the experience to know what it takes to succeed and the experience of knowing the pitfalls to avoid. 

I have a friend who was a successful running back in high school and college but he didn't have people around him that valued the education when he was in high school. He had offers from big schools but couldn't accept because his grades didn't make the requirements to the Div. 1 schools that offered him scholarships. His son is also an athlete(Div. 1 scholarship basketball player) but his dad knew to value the education and so he had exceptional grades all throughout his HS and AAU career. He passed on all the knowledge of the process, as did some of his mentors like David West. 

Having that experience around of what it takes to be a successful athlete is absolutely invaluable. There is no school of hard knocks and you can prepare for things long before you ever experience them with the trust of knowing the person giving you that advice has been through those scenarios.

100%. Having someone in your life that has done what you want to do gives you such a huge advantage.
 

It also pushes you to succeed because you want to meet expectations. You don’t want to be the guy in the family who couldn’t hack it.

Years ago I worked at a big medical school. The admissions people told me that having docs in the family (particularly doc parents) was a big predictor of a students success. Take two students with the same grades and intelligence, and the kid with a doc in the family was more likely to graduate. 
 

It’s just something to do with mental preparation, mentorship, and expectations to succeed.

 

[shaqattaq]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

The genetics matter, the experience is a bonus if they are physically what the NFL requires to thrive. 

As bad as our TE situation is, I really wanted Thaddeus Moss in the 7th, or, at least as a UDFA. Went to high school in Charlotte, played at State, then LSU under Brady. It made a lot of sense. Rivera ended up with him.

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

As bad as our TE situation is, I really wanted Thaddeus Moss in the 7th, or, at least as a UDFA. Went to high school in Charlotte, played at State, then LSU under Brady. It made a lot of sense. Rivera ended up with him.

Moss probably won't stick in the league for long would be my guess.

[shaqattaq]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Moss probably won't stick in the league for long would be my guess.

Worth taking a chance as a UDFA though, look at all the trash TE's we paraded through here this pre-season. At least he was familiar with Brady's system.

Of course, it could be that Brady knew him well enough to pass on him...

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

Worth taking a chance as a UDFA though, look at all the trash TE's we paraded through here this pre-season. At least he was familiar with Brady's system.

Of course, it could be that Brady knew him well enough to pass on him...

Yeah, it isn't like they utilized Moss much. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Yeah, if Brady wanted Moss I'm sure we would've gotten him. Once you get into the late rounds you're pretty much just throwing darts anyway and darts on known commodities (like Roy) are better than blind darts. We just plain didn't see Moss as worth a draft pick.

[t96]

3 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Sometimes, though, they fall off the cliff. Like the drop off between Kellen Winslow and Kellen Winslow, Jr. Whew, dang.

Not sure there was a huge gap in football talent/knowledge there though... Jr. is just a piece of poo human being and clearly was not committed to the sport like his dad was.

[t96]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

And I guess we'd be remiss to leave out Archie Manning from the discussion. He had a couple of kids that got some jewelry. Can't seem to remember their names.

Is Coop working at a jewelry store now?

[MHS831]

True--my dad played football at So Carolina.  He caught 35 passes his sophomore year and was preseason All American entering his Jr year--I was 2 at the time....So he knew the game in more ways than one.  he was able to coach me up a bit in the backyard and he helped me by asking recruiters the right questions.  So many people in my situation go for the biggest, most prestigious school that shows interest.  Archie's involvement in Eli's draft process reminded me of my dad--so it is not just genetics, it is also inherited experience.   The mental aspects of the transition from one level to the next is the thing that many cannot handle---I think that is why we have game film, the combine, individual workouts, and still have a 50% success rate in the first round.

The attitude--the dispositions---they are more important than the physical attributes.  And having someone you looked up to give you advice and guidance is irreplaceable--you can trust that person in a world when you are being courted and wooed by big name universities and NFL brands---they keep you grounded and focused on you--

The End.

 

[Riverboat Ron]

5 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Sometimes, though, they fall off the cliff. Like the drop off between Kellen Winslow and Kellen Winslow, Jr. Whew, dang.

One scored touchdowns, the other scored several felonies.

[Billy Love]

5 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Sometimes, though, they fall off the cliff. Like the drop off between Kellen Winslow and Kellen Winslow, Jr. Whew, dang.

That's actually spelled: Kellen Winslow, Gunner!

[MHS831]

48 minutes ago, Riverboat Ron said:

One scored touchdowns, the other scored several felonies.

yes, but they were alleged felonies before he was convicted.

That's my point.

[UncleWillie]

7 hours ago, Tbe said: