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"Teddy will never be good enough" crowd

Jeremy Igo

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Maybe the reason people get put into the "Teddy will never be good enough" bubble is because the reoccurring themes about Teddy are simply hearsay being repeated by people who have never seen him play. If you would have watched him in college then you would have known how he could have lead the Vikings to the division title in his second year. You also could have seen how he ripped off five straight wins to save New Orleans season after Brees got hurt. And If you want to say that those teams were stacked, then I ask you, why do those well coached, well built teams keep choosing Teddy Bridgewater, and the losers let him get away?    

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Maybe the reason people get put into the "Teddy will never be good enough" bubble is because the reoccurring themes about Teddy are simply hearsay being repeated by people who have never seen him play. If you would have watched him in college then you would have known how he could have lead the Vikings to the division title in his second year. You also could have seen how he ripped off five straight wins to save New Orleans season after Brees got hurt. And If you want to say that those teams were stacked, then I ask you, why do those well coached, well built teams keep choosing Teddy Bridgewater, and the losers let him get away?    

That is an impressive amount of nonsense in one post.

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9 hours ago, Tinamedina said:

Winning a game doesn't make him less garbage. The defense won that game, he was JUST THERE. That's what you call a game manager. 

That drive at the end of the third and beginning of the 4th to take 8 minutes off the clock and score 3 points was masterful. Much more than just a game manager. He made clutch third down plays and extended drives. He played very well yesterday. Give the man his due....

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48 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

That drive at the end of the third and beginning of the 4th to take 8 minutes off the clock and score 3 points was masterful. Much more than just a game manager. He made clutch third down plays and extended drives. He played very well yesterday. Give the man his due....

Teddy was, for the first time as a Panther, responsible for extending multiple drives and making huge plays.  We had seen flashes before but this was a good performance from him.  If this can be his norm, not only will this offense be very good, he will be very secure here in Carolina.

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I'm not part of the "Teddy will never be good enough" crowd, or at least I don't think I am. Others may put me there.

I suppose I'd consider myself part of the "Teddy probably won't ever be a franchise QB but is pretty good and might be better than I thought" crowd if that's a thing.

Maybe it's just me (I'm my own crowd).

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I'm not part of the "Teddy will never be good enough" crowd, or at least I don't think I am. Others may put me there.

I suppose I'd consider myself part of the "Teddy probably won't ever be a franchise QB but is pretty good and might be better than I thought" crowd if that's a thing.

Maybe it's just me (I'm my own crowd).

That's where I am as well. Not even being negative, just realistic based on the film to date and calling him Alex Smith-like is only a negative in the sense that Smith can't single-handedly elevate teams. Those types of QBs can still be solid players which Teddy already is and if he shows he can achieve even more than Alex (as my metric) then fantastic for him, the team, and the fans alike.

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This seems very knee jerk like after 2 weeks of back to back wins vs non-elite teams. No one said teddy was god awful. He can drive you to a decent record sure. Can he win you games and put the team on his back...that is what you judge a franchise qb on. This looks like we are gonna be good enough not to suck and but not good enough to not be one and done in the playoffs. stuck in purgatory like the hornets.

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2 minutes ago, KSpan said:

That's where I am as well. Not even being negative, just realistic based on the film to date and calling him Alex Smith-like is only a negative in the sense that Smith can't single-handedly elevate teams. Those types of QBs can still be solid players which Teddy already is and if he shows he can achieve even more than Alex (as my metric) then fantastic for him, the team, and the fans alike.

Agreed. No one hates teddy.. I just dont think this gets us where we need to be in the long run to win superbowls without an elite defense to let him manage the gm.

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Just now, micnificent28 said:

This seems very knee jerk like after 2 weeks of back to back wins vs non-elite teams. No one said teddy was god awful. He can drive you to a decent record sure. Can he win you games and put the team on his back...that is what you judge a franchise qb on. This looks like we are gonna be good enough not to suck and but not good enough to not be one and done in the playoffs. stuck in purgatory like the hornets.

The honest answer is we don't know if he can put a team on his back and win a game.  

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2 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

The honest answer is we don't know if he can put a team on his back and win a game.  

True, but it's still also completely fair to say that to date he has not shown the ability to do so, even if only because he hasn't been asked to, and as such for folks to have opinions based on that film. 

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True, but it's still also completely fair to say that to date he has not shown the ability to do so, even if only because he hasn't been asked to, and as such for folks to have opinions based on that film. 

I'm okay with him being part of a win and not being the only reason we win.  

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26 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I'm okay with him being part of a win and not being the only reason we win.  

Well of course, but having a QB who can be the reason a team wins is a huge advantage. Duh statement there on my part, and my whole position is that even if we have Alex Smith-type of success with Teddy it shouldn't preclude us from looking for our Mahomes and widening that window as much as possible.

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35 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

This seems very knee jerk like after 2 weeks of back to back wins vs non-elite teams. No one said teddy was god awful. He can drive you to a decent record sure. Can he win you games and put the team on his back...that is what you judge a franchise qb on. This looks like we are gonna be good enough not to suck and but not good enough to not be one and done in the playoffs. stuck in purgatory like the hornets.

How is thinking he might be good,  a premature knee jerk reaction, but somehow him not being a franchise QB and not good enough to get us past round 1, isnt just as premature at this point 

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44 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

This seems very knee jerk like after 2 weeks of back to back wins vs non-elite teams. No one said teddy was god awful. He can drive you to a decent record sure. Can he win you games and put the team on his back...that is what you judge a franchise qb on. This looks like we are gonna be good enough not to suck and but not good enough to not be one and done in the playoffs. stuck in purgatory like the hornets.

Teddy has already "put the team on his back" the last two weeks carrying this offense without CMC. A 73% completion and going 7-11 on 3rd downs is putting team on back or whatever other vague terms you guys wanna come up with to measure him. 

He's doing everything that's needed in this offense and has been solid considering the limited training camp, no preseason.  

The Panthers already have their franchise Qb, if he continues to improve in this offense, you guys will just be late to the party.  

 

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