big players make big plays in big games

[Rags]

4 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

He in no way, shape or form had 3 drops. You’re calling every incompletion a drop. If it takes a superhuman effort to touch the ball, it’s not a drop. Or, look at it this way: if Robby did that, would you call it a drop? No, you’d say it was a bad throw. 

No i'd call it a drop and be just as dissapointed in him as I am D.J., you're just assuming how I'd respond so you can say you're right.

Its the NFL. poo isn't easy. The only one I'm willing to say eh on is the endzone one, because he was about to get lit up there, but also he reacted really slowly to the pass and let it get past his hands so he never even had a chance. I'd be more dissapointed if Robby dropped that one given he had the size advantage. 

Players come down with those catches. D.J. didn't. They're drops.

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, mav1234 said:

That's why I said excluding the 4th and 2.  The endzone throw was perfect. He dropped another great ball too, though I'd have to look at the play by play to pull it out for you.

None the less, DJ made some great plays when he needed to.

Yeah, I won’t defend the one in stride on first down in the second half. Gotta make that play. The end zone one is easy in concept, but he was about to get hit too.

I’d mark him down for 1.5 drops today and Robby for one that caused a pick. What pisses me off is that DJ gets blamed for bad throws, and Robby’s mistakes get ignored or blamed on Teddy. Just the double standard annoys me. 

[mav1234]

Just now, Carl Spackler said:

Yeah, I won’t defend the one in stride on first down in the second half. Gotta make that play. The end zone one is easy in concept, but he was about to get hit too.

I’d mark him down for 1.5 drops today and Robby for one that caused a pick. What pisses me off is that DJ gets blamed for bad throws, and Robby’s mistakes get ignored or blamed on Teddy. Just the double standard annoys me. 

That's fair. I think it was DPI that caused Robby to drop that pass but I didn't see it live and only saw replays.

I don't think DJ was bad today by any stretch, and a slightly better throw/slightly more on the same page with Teddy and we're talking about how great DJ was and we may still be enjoying a game in OT.

The forum has been harsh on DJ lately. He's seemed off tbh, but maybe that is just getting fewer passes thrown his way.

[Gesualdo]

33 minutes ago, Rags said:

I normally do not agree with you here but this is spot on.

If D.J. is supposed to be a #1 WR he's gotta come down with thoses. Those are the off kilter throws Ryan, Ben and Hopkins used to throw to Julio, Brown and Nuk respectively. 

D.J. was more of a let down than Teddy today.

There's a difference between a #1 WR and an ultra-elite #1, to be fair. There are legitimate #1s who just aren't as magical as those dudes and DJ is currently establishing that as his ceiling.

[*FreeFua*]

33 minutes ago, Rags said:

I normally do not agree with you here but this is spot on.

If D.J. is supposed to be a #1 WR he's gotta come down with thoses. Those are the off kilter throws Ryan, Ben and Hopkins used to throw to Julio, Brown and Nuk respectively. 

D.J. was more of a let down than Teddy today.

3 drops.

The first one in the end zone was awful. Zylstra would’ve come down with that. 
 

The second one hit him between the numbers.

The third, he had it and lost it while tucking. 

WR’s are paid to make plays too

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, mav1234 said:

That's fair. I think it was DPI that caused Robby to drop that pass but I didn't see it live and only saw replays.

I don't think DJ was bad today by any stretch, and a slightly better throw/slightly more on the same page with Teddy and we're talking about how great DJ was and we may still be enjoying a game in OT.

The forum has been harsh on DJ lately. He's seemed off tbh, but maybe that is just getting fewer passes thrown his way.

I’ve been surprised at him not catching some passes, but only haters will consider him not a top-20 WR. He backs up that claim statistically and still had what, 95 yards today? This forum has always been harsh on DJ. Probably most of them wanted a different WR, so fug them. You and I both know. Besides, if Brown had another penalty today without his badass TFL, the Isiah Simmons Army would’ve descended like they did in the first 3 weeks. I guess part of it comes down to not giving a guy a chance. 

[Happy Panther]

Bears D had Bridgewater unsettled. Doesn't excuse those couple of plays with the game on the line but he hasn't been pressured like that this year.

I'll wait for a trend before I vilify him.

[USDepartmentOfSavagery]

50 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

this season is a litmus test by which we test whether teddy bidgewater - who is solid - is a franchise quarterback.

this game was a litmus test for that season.

that fourth quarter was a litmus test for that game.

teddy is solid but he failed this particular litmus test.

time will tell if he will pass the next couple, likely starting next week against new orleans.

Teddy is 100% “solid”.

a franchise qb he is not...

Fug how good the bears defense is. A “franchise qb” leads us down the fuging field. Teddy, unfortunately proved his worth. 

[PhillyB]

5 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

Teddy is 100% “solid”.

a franchise qb he is not...

Fug how good the bears defense is. A “franchise qb” leads us down the fuging field. Teddy, unfortunately proved his worth. 

he needs other games to get a grounded body of work in, and he'll get them, but it's worth noting this was a chance to put a signature on his argument and he dropped the pen.

[mc52beast]

1 hour ago, kass said:

The usual. He play well as a underdog but fails to deliver when his team are considered favorites.

He plays well when he has a lead, not so good when he’s forced to make a comeback. He’s also not like Cam in that Cam could make this line look like all pros.

[mc52beast]

28 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

Teddy is 100% “solid”.

a franchise qb he is not...

Fug how good the bears defense is. A “franchise qb” leads us down the fuging field. Teddy, unfortunately proved his worth. 

Truth... Teddy will never put this team on his back and carry them. Great guy but just an above average qb.

[ichigo1057]

2 hours ago, mav1234 said:

That play looked like a broken route or a misthrow - maybe Teddy was rushed. I'll have to catch the replay.

I place the blame on Teddy since he ultimately was throwing the ball, but the way Moore was contorting his body, I wondered if he was running the wrong route.

Funny you should say that. I watched the replay of it on the NFL web site and it looked exactly that. Teddy threw the ball as if to hit DJ in stride however DJ turned around and lost some speed for a moment and it looked it was just enough to put him out of position to make the catch. Hard to really say who blame would fall on in that situation to be honest. Now that I think about it the announcers even say as much that Teddy was trying to lead him down the field. 

Going even further, this play could have even been a cause and effect or the INT that ended the game since instead of doing a leading throw (though he was under pressure this time) he tried a bullet throw.

[mav1234]

3 minutes ago, ichigo1057 said:

Funny you should say that. I watched the replay of it on the NFL web site and it looked exactly that. Teddy threw the ball as if to hit DJ in stride however DJ turned around and lost some speed for a moment and it looked it was just enough to put him out of position to make the catch. Hard to really say who blame would fall on in that situation to be honest. Now that I think about it the announcers even say as much that Teddy was trying to lead him down the field.

Yes, DJ did not appear to be running to where Teddy was throwing, and he still almost made a very athletic catch.  Maybe the coaches will/did comment.

[ichigo1057]

6 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Yes, DJ did not appear to be running to where Teddy was throwing, and he still almost made a very athletic catch.  Maybe the coaches will/did comment.

At the time all that was said on that pass was that he'd have to look at the film to tell what happened. He did say he felt like the team was very out of sync the whole game with players running the wrong routes and etc. though. Correct me if I'm mistaken but with the facilities being shut down due to Covid, they lost some practice time didn't they? If so that could explain everybody being so out of sync.