All of you were right about Cam

[AceBoogie]

2 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

I mean are we not going to use logic either cams best wr is Byrd, they got there ass whooped when they faced two secondaries that could play press 

But when Byrd is open he ain’t hitting him. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

I'm not optimistic until the last of the unholy Trinity is gone

Yep. I won't be truly bullish on the future until Hurney no longer has that GM label.

 

[AceBoogie]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

In Belichick's defense, it's largely Kraft's fault. Belichick was ready to move on from Brady and move forward with Garoppolo. Kraft wanted to stick with Brady and forced the trade if Jimmy G.

Well it looks like Brady ain’t the problem. Just like any QB you have to put some talent around them. 

[uncfan888]

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The only thing I disagree with you on is that I don't think TB is the answer for the future.

Nope, he is not. He makes too many game killing mistakes 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

It was a fun and frustrating run he had here in Carolina. Maybe this organization will better learn how to handle superstar talent. How many SBs would Cam and Luke have if they were in PIT, SEA, NO, GB, or NE together ? 

[AceBoogie]

8 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

He did have one very good game passing vs SEA.  Really thought he was back.  He didn't have bad games vs MIA or LVR either.

He's also only a couple weeks removed from COVID. He just doesn't look right back there.  I hope he isn't done.

I game him that excuse last week. But when Miami puts up 43 on them and you only manage 6 with a fully healthy offensive line at home, that’s a problem. They would have lost this game anyway because the defense was just as bad, but these last two games they’ve gotten nothing from the QB position. Not a spark, not a glimmer of hope. 

[pantherj]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The only thing I disagree with you on is that I don't think TB is the answer for the future.

I think Rhule is planning to give Teddy the full 3 seasons to prove he can get results (winning seasons). Next season's roster will be considerably better due to new draft picks and good free agents coming to replace the poop players we had to settle for due to too much dead cap.

Teddy + much better roster = ___???___. I don't know, but I think a winning season. Time will tell.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Well it looks like Brady ain’t the problem. Just like any QB you have to put some talent around them. 

He would be trash if he was playing in NE right now. TB went all in with him as they should have if they were going to sign him.

[mav1234]

Just now, AceBoogie said:

I game him that excuse last week. But when Miami puts up 43 on them and you only manage 6 with a fully healthy offensive line at home, that’s a problem. They would have lost this game anyway because the defense was just as bad, but these last two games they’ve gotten nothing from the QB position. Not a spark, not a glimmer of hope. 

very true.  honestly, I'm sure they'll put him back out there because the alternative is no better. 

[mav1234]

10 minutes ago, CatTower said:

I don't think Cam is done, but he is a middle of the pack QB at best.  The biggest issue is his durability.  If he can't play a whole season without breaking down, then teams aren't going to invest in him.  

I'm not buying any of the "Patriots have nobody" excuse.  Cam chose to go there on a 1 year minimum contract.  That's on him for putting himself in that situation.

The Patriots may have been Cam's only real chance to start.

[Rags]

34 minutes ago, Shocker said:

The Patriots offense just isn't good.  Not much talent there at all. Hardly all Cams fault.  Again though he isn't very accurate anymore.  No way around it.

Yeah this.

First int he would've zipped that in back in the day. Granted most LBs aren't Warner and it wouldn't have been picked by most other LBs but still that was a duck of a throw.

[Cpt slay a ho]

5 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

But when Byrd is open he ain’t hitting him. 

The few times I’ve seen Byrd open he’s hit him, last week he did not see the field well that was for sure but again I think it’s premature to say he’s done, we’ve watched 4 qbs struggle equally as bad under this same scheme, as long as he’s healthy, I don’t think people realize how bad this pats team Would be if not for cam, and with how he’s been playing that says a lot about the team 

[AceBoogie]

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

very true.  honestly, I'm sure they'll put him back out there because the alternative is no better. 

I wouldn’t. You already know Cam isn’t your long term plan. He doesn’t fit as a backup. So you need to at least see if Stidham can be a backup for you. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, pantherj said:

I think Rhule is planning to give Teddy the full 3 seasons to prove he can get results (winning seasons). Next season's roster will be considerably better due to new draft picks and good free agents coming to replace the poop players we had to settle for due to too much dead cap.

Teddy + much better roster = ___???___. I don't know, but I think a winning season. Time will tell.

It's largely thought by people who narmally have a pretty good read on these things within the team that Herbert would've been our pick if he was on the board. That doesn't sound like we're planning to wait three years to make that decision. Teddy's contract is basically a two year deal with a third year team option