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If we take a Round 1 QB, A few OT options that could be Gems

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1 minute ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

What would you do?  By the write up it seems Little has mediocre written all over him. 

I like the ones that are mentioned to be very athletic.  Those guys usually take good coaching and can improve.

It will be interesting to see the combines on these players. 

If you mean this write up, I wrote it, so take it with a grain of salt.  I like Little, but he will probably be gone.  And you are so right--the combine is going to be critical.  I look for balance, work ethic, and athleticism.  I do not like to see an OL hit his knees a lot--that suggests there is a balance issue and it could mean there is an issue that is robbing the OT of strength and power.  Just my way.

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2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

If you mean this write up, I wrote it, so take it with a grain of salt.  I like Little, but he will probably be gone.  And you are so right--the combine is going to be critical.  I look for balance, work ethic, and athleticism.  I do not like to see an OL hit his knees a lot--that suggests there is a balance issue and it could mean there is an issue that is robbing the OT of strength and power.  Just my way.

Sorry wasn't putting down your write-up.  I am not a talent scout and usually let you smart guys fill me in.

I know I keep saying it on many post but when Rhule was being interviewed after he was hired he emphasized two words.  Fast and Athletic.

I believe he'll look for the best athlete in each position he chooses.   My opinion of course.  

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14 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I worry that we missed the boat on a LT.  The top 4 last year have been good.  Wirfs especially.

Had we gone IOL (say McCoy and Evans) instead of Little we could have gone T instead of Brown. Not that I don’t like Brown, but man instead of Little/Brown, we could have had an OL of Becton, Evans, McCoy, Miller and Moton. Resign Moton and all you need is one G to have had a helluva an OL for years. That would be better than Brown.

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15 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Sorry wasn't putting down your write-up.  I am not a talent scout and usually let you smart guys fill me in.

I know I keep saying it on many post but when Rhule was being interviewed after he was hired he emphasized two words.  Fast and Athletic.

I believe he'll look for the best athlete in each position he chooses.   My opinion of course.  

Yeah, I think that was largely the case in this past draft. I don't think this staff is just looking for workout warriors, but looking at our draft class they definitely prioritized athletes.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I think that was largely the case in this past draft. I don't think this staff is just looking for workout warriors, but looking at our draft class they definitely prioritized athletes.

If we continue to draft with that being a priority in traits.  We'll see this team climb quickly up the rankings in the years to come. 

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1 hour ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Sorry wasn't putting down your write-up.  I am not a talent scout and usually let you smart guys fill me in.

I know I keep saying it on many post but when Rhule was being interviewed after he was hired he emphasized two words.  Fast and Athletic.

I believe he'll look for the best athlete in each position he chooses.   My opinion of course.  

I did not take it that way---I was just being fully transparent to let you know that I was the source--not an expert.

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6 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Little was rated (on the sites I read) as a boom or bust candidate--that always scares me.  I understood the move to get him, which is what happens when you enter a draft with a specific shopping list---BPA?  Not even close. And Marty tried to get into the first round to get him.  What would that have cost us? 

I know if I was a GM on another team and my phone rang and it said, "Panthers" above the number, I would answer it and do some dealing. 

If you're boom or bust and Hurney drafts you in the 2nd, it's over. That's a wrap for your career 

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4 hours ago, TikTOK said:

Wills, Becton andWirfs have been good from this past draft. McGlinchey, Miller and Ramczyk from previous drafts. There have been a bunch of busts. In between since then. Blame the college programs. Offensive tackles used to be the safe pick. Not anymore. 

It's not college programs' responsibility to develop NFL players. It's not their fault that NFL teams aren't doing a good job at translating that talent to their game.

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On 12/6/2020 at 10:00 AM, LinvilleGorge said:

And if this draft is anything like recent drafts, the best OL will probably come out of the second tier prospects. The elite prospects have been busting left and right, quite literally.

By second tier are you talking about later rounds or the later guys in the first round?

Last year's class is looking pretty good so far, especially for their rookie season.  Wirfs is playing well from what I've read.  Becton has looked good at times also.  Thomas struggled early from most accounts but I saw a PFF tweet recently that said his recent games have been great.  Don't really know much about Wills but I think he has been the starter most of the year.

I hope we don't regret not taking one last year.  Heck, we could have traded down and still got one of them.  I like Brown but its not often you have a chance to draft a tackle without reaching, they often seem to be drafted early than the fans think they should.

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