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Greg Little just flopped on over to IR, ending his season

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stbugs Grand Master

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3 hours ago, theinstrumental said:

He'll be 23 when next season starts and he's not expensive. Trent Scott might be the starter next year, but Little could still come back as the backup. Not what we wanted from him, but if Scott keeps playing well and left tackle isn't a disaster, fine.

We get $2.6M in space the next 2 years if he’s gone. You can find a backup tackle for  less than that who you don’t inactivate or a rookie tackle that you want to give a chance to get better.

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5 minutes ago, PantherPhann89 said:

50/50 shot... His stats in comparison made him a good pick. He didn't pan out, not the first or last to do so from Hurney or any other GM.

The 31 other teams let him drop for a reason.

Same thing happened with Jimmy Clausen.

Bottom Line: No, no GM is perfect, but some guys are very good at predicting what players are gonna be good and which ones aren't, and others are Marty Hurney.

You can't just hang on to a guy who's bad at his job just because nobody's perfect at it. If that logic worked, we'd have hung on to Ron Rivera (and Clausen).

He's just not good enough.

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9 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

many on here saw it was a bad pick after it happened

Many of us talked about him not being a good pick before the draft. The only other OL many of us disliked as much was Dillard who looked awful his rookie year and missed this whole season. He looks to have been passed by a 7th rounder.

Acting like Little was some perfect specimen and Marty was unlucky is only something that people who don’t watch the combine can do. I watched it and I wouldn’t have talent Little until mid to late day 3 as a project. That’s how far down the OL prospects he looked at the combine drills. Just to make sure people understand the drills aren’t the measured part they are the drills where NFL coaches put people through to simulate what they’d do during the game. As much as Burns impressed me in the drills, Little disappointed me and I’m not a scout just a regular old football fan who could see how bad he looked.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The 31 other teams let him drop for a reason.

Same thing happened with Jimmy Clausen.

Bottom Line: No, no GM is perfect, but some guys are very good at predicting what players are gonna be good and which ones aren't, and others are Marty Hurney.

You can't just hang on to a guy who's bad at his job just because nobody's perfect at it. If that logic worked, we'd have hung on to Ron Rivera (and Clausen).

He's just not good enough.

I do not mean to sound like  Hurney defender because I am not. I think he needs to go.  But......where is Hurney getting the information he uses to make some of these questionable decisions?  Has the scouting department been a weak area too or does Hurney just go off completely on his own on these things, ignoring what the scouts may tell him?

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12 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

I do not mean to sound like  Hurney defender because I am not. I think he needs to go.  But......where is Hurney getting the information he uses to make some of these questionable decisions?  Has the scouting department been a weak area too or does Hurney just go off completely on his own on these things, ignoring what the scouts may tell him?

Word from people with insight has been that most of his better decisions come when he listens to the scouts, but he's known to get the occasional wild hair up his ass. Thus, there have been times when the scouting folks have had to talk him down from doing something crazy (wanting to draft Brad Kaaya for example, whom he later signed after letting go of Joe Webb; Kaaya didn't stick). Worth remembering too though that Marty hires and fires the scouts in that department.

But even when you're getting good info from the scouts, when the time comes to make a pick you generally have three or four viable options and you've got to pick the right one.

It's a lot easier to do that in Round One (especially with an higher pick) than it is in the later rounds.

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13 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

I do not mean to sound like  Hurney defender because I am not. I think he needs to go.  But......where is Hurney getting the information he uses to make some of these questionable decisions?  Has the scouting department been a weak area too or does Hurney just go off completely on his own on these things, ignoring what the scouts may tell him?

It's my understanding that on most of Hurney wild reaches that he's gone against the advice of the scouts. Hurney is a big "gut feel" decision maker who is willing to overlook glaring red flags if he has a good feeling about a prospect.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Word from people with insight has been that most of his better decisions come when he listens to the scouts, but he's known to get the occasional wild hair up his ass.

 

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's my understanding that on most of Hurney wild reaches that he's gone against the advice of the scouts. Hurney is a big "gut feel" decision maker who is willing to overlook glaring red flags if he has a good feeling about a prospect.

Time to retire both his gut and ass IMO. 

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3 minutes ago, PandaMan said:

Everette Brown is slyly chuckling as he cashes that coaching check from the team

I know Wikipedia still lists him as being an Assistant LB Coach for the Panthers, but he's actually not.

If you check the coaching staff page on the team site or the Panthers 2020 media guide, he's not there.

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