Greg Little just flopped on over to IR, ending his season

[Basbear]

For the PFF users and believers, please check his run grade....

Prepare yourselves, cause I think hes leading the panthers....

[tiger7_88]

8 hours ago, bobcat91 said:

Greg Little was not a good college player, never developed into the player the recruiting sites fell in love with and was always going to be a bust. I said so at the time. My only mistake was I thought he would simply suck, not be one of the most injury prone players in the league. That was a terrible Hurney pick and the only thing that would have made this worse is if he had actually traded into the first for him. Cut his ass and be done with it. 

I was screaming this at the time as well (being an SEC guy, I watched him play a lot).

stbugs was screaming what he validly and accurately saw at the combine about the dude.

And yet Hurney fell in love with him, lol.

[tiger7_88]

6 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

The position that Butler plays should be stat driven. He is brought in to pressure passer and get into the backfield. 

lol

Please give me the huge, long list of 3-tech and 0-techs in the history of the NFL who were consistently dangerous pass-rushers and QB-sackers.

You might be able to give me a list, but it would be very small.  Why?  Because the vast majority of effective pass rushers come from the edge.  Because its more effective to rush the passer when you are rarely being double-teamed.  Whereas 3-techs and 0-techs are rarely *not* double-teamed.

Wanna know why?  Cuz good, quality QBs can step up in a pocket away from an edge rush, but can't do it vs. a rush up the middle.  The only way to get away from that rush is to leave the pocket and when a QB leaves the pocket (unintentionally) the play breaks down.

Again, a 3-tech will always line up with an OL on each of his shoulders.  A 0-tech will line up on the nose with OGs on his shoulders.

And you think the primary job for either of these positions is to pressure the passer?  lol

P.S. Yes, there are unicorns who have existed at these positions.  But Alan Page, Joe Greene, Reggie White, Aaron Donald, and Fletcher Cox level players sure as hell don't just fall off of your backyard Football Tree.

[Panthers8969]

13 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Should we have kept Jimmy Clausen around longer to see if he bloomed into a franchise quarterback?

Well we drafted a franchise qb the very next year... not really apples to apples imo. I don’t think you should be cutting early round picks after 2 years, especially when they’ve been plagued by injuries. There’s a chance he stays healthy and still pans out. Sure, likely a small chance, but I really doubt some tackle we pick up off waivers is more likely to make an impact than little

[Panthers8969]

9 hours ago, bobcat91 said:

Did you watch him play at Ole Miss or are you just an ignorant stat reader. I watched him play personally about a dozen times. Sorry, but you really don't know what you are talking about

Nope, I don’t watch ole miss. Care to explain how the pass pro stat is misleading? 

[Carolina Cajun]

So...hes Edmund kugbila with extra steps...got it.

[mrcompletely11]

6 hours ago, Panthers8969 said:

Well we drafted a franchise qb the very next year... not really apples to apples imo. I don’t think you should be cutting early round picks after 2 years, especially when they’ve been plagued by injuries. There’s a chance he stays healthy and still pans out. Sure, likely a small chance, but I really doubt some tackle we pick up off waivers is more likely to make an impact than little

Trent Scott laughs at you

[catnip]

If he is still under contract , try and move him to guard or back up guard . If he can't handle it cut him .

[Car123]

20 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

Brad Kaaya?  You mean the dude in the 2017 NFL Draft when Hurney was unemployed?  That's the guy the scouts had to talk Hurney out of drafting while he was sitting at home on the couch?  You might want to re-evaluate those sources...they sound a little suspect.

These posters and their undocumented sources are full of poo.

[Car123]

Carolina Huddle posters will believe undocumented “sources” but when our own beat writer states that the 2020 draft was Hurney’s these same posters won’t believe. You can’t make this stuff up.

[ncfan]

40 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Carolina Huddle posters will believe undocumented “sources” but when our own beat writer states that the 2020 draft was Hurney’s these same posters won’t believe. You can’t make this stuff up.

Gross Matos was a guy who had ties to the staff and Rhule.  Matt is a Penn State guy.  And glad you mentioned the beat writers.  You must have missed the part where the "beat writers" stated Rhule made it clear when day 2 started that he wanted YGM.

 

And even if you want to give Hurney credit for this years draft.

 

Rd 2-3 picks are just as important as rd 1 guys.  Its not like basketball where you play t guys and you hit on 1 guy in the draft that your set.

 

It is known, that rd 2 guys need to be Impact Starter guys. And rd 3 guys need to be solid starters.

 

3 out of 6 of Hurneys picks in that range have been cut or are on track to be on the roster within 2-3 season.  Not starting, not backups, but not even on the roster halfway through their rookie deal. 

That is terrible, terrible drafting.

The other 3 guys he's drafted

Donte Jackson- who has made a splash int every now and then.  But gives up more big plaus than he makes plays.  He has regularly been picked on by division rivals (Ridley has had a field day in every matchup, and Chris Godwin was 2 yars in a matchup from going over 100 on Jackson their last SIX, 6!!! matchups)

 

Then you have this class.  Chinn, ok we'll let him have credit.  And Gross Matos which again as you pointed to the beat writers, Rhule made the pick, Hurney just called it in.

 

 

its embarrassing to see people actually defend this clown.

 

You dont see Texans defending Rick Smith because he drafted Watson, Watt, Hopkins, etc.

 

You dont see the Jets setting up statues of Joe Douglas just because he is going to draft Trevor Lawerence 

[Car123]

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

Gross Matos was a guy who had ties to the staff and Rhule.  Matt is a Penn State guy.  And glad you mentioned the beat writers.  You must have missed the part where the "beat writers" stated Rhule made it clear when day 2 started that he wanted YGM.

 

And even if you want to give Hurney credit for this years draft.

 

Rd 2-3 picks are just as important as rd 1 guys.  Its not like basketball where you play t guys and you hit on 1 guy in the draft that your set.

 

It is known, that rd 2 guys need to be Impact Starter guys. And rd 3 guys need to be solid starters.

 

3 out of 6 of Hurneys picks in that range have been cut or are on track to be on the roster within 2-3 season.  Not starting, not backups, but not even on the roster halfway through their rookie deal. 

That is terrible, terrible drafting.

The other 3 guys he's drafted

Donte Jackson- who has made a splash int every now and then.  But gives up more big plaus than he makes plays.  He has regularly been picked on by division rivals (Ridley has had a field day in every matchup, and Chris Godwin was 2 yars in a matchup from going over 100 on Jackson their last SIX, 6!!! matchups)

 

Then you have this class.  Chinn, ok we'll let him have credit.  And Gross Matos which again as you pointed to the beat writers, Rhule made the pick, Hurney just called it in.

 

 

its embarrassing to see people actually defend this clown.

 

You dont see Texans defending Rick Smith because he drafted Watson, Watt, Hopkins, etc.

 

You dont see the Jets setting up statues of Joe Douglas just because he is going to draft Trevor Lawerence 

Dude most GMs don’t decide the picks on their own. They get input from the staff. In 2019, the coaching staff loved Will Grier. Did Norv Turner make the pick? No. Hurney weighed all options and decided Will Grier will be the pick. Same with the 2020 draft.

[Car123]

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

Gross Matos was a guy who had ties to the staff and Rhule.  Matt is a Penn State guy.  And glad you mentioned the beat writers.  You must have missed the part where the "beat writers" stated Rhule made it clear when day 2 started that he wanted YGM.

 

And even if you want to give Hurney credit for this years draft.

 

Rd 2-3 picks are just as important as rd 1 guys.  Its not like basketball where you play t guys and you hit on 1 guy in the draft that your set.

 

It is known, that rd 2 guys need to be Impact Starter guys. And rd 3 guys need to be solid starters.

 

3 out of 6 of Hurneys picks in that range have been cut or are on track to be on the roster within 2-3 season.  Not starting, not backups, but not even on the roster halfway through their rookie deal. 

That is terrible, terrible drafting.

The other 3 guys he's drafted

Donte Jackson- who has made a splash int every now and then.  But gives up more big plaus than he makes plays.  He has regularly been picked on by division rivals (Ridley has had a field day in every matchup, and Chris Godwin was 2 yars in a matchup from going over 100 on Jackson their last SIX, 6!!! matchups)

 

Then you have this class.  Chinn, ok we'll let him have credit.  And Gross Matos which again as you pointed to the beat writers, Rhule made the pick, Hurney just called it in.

 

 

its embarrassing to see people actually defend this clown.

 

You dont see Texans defending Rick Smith because he drafted Watson, Watt, Hopkins, etc.

 

You dont see the Jets setting up statues of Joe Douglas just because he is going to draft Trevor Lawerence 

Hurney is on par with most GMs in the league when it comes to drafting. No team is selecting starters every year in rounds one, two, and three.