Mac Jones

[AU-panther]

1 minute ago, AceBoogie said:

For the record I told y’all a year ago Herbert was the best QB in the draft. I watched him a lot in college and he was operating like a NFL QB already. 

He didn't operate like a NFL QB much, they didn't ask much out of him,  lot of short stuff.  Hence the reason so many people weren't sold on him.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

For the record I told y’all a year ago Herbert was the best QB in the draft. I watched him a lot in college and he was operating like a NFL QB already. 

So did I. I was on record as saying he was clearly the most talented of that class.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

So did I. I was on record as saying he was clearly the most talented of that class.

I was on record as saying that I hadn't watched enough college football last year to be certain.

 

 

Just wanted to put that out there...

[AU-panther]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I would say that Burrow definitely doesn't have elite arm talent for the NFL. Not IMO. He does have scrambling ability, I will say that. 

Wasn't a big fan of him coming into the NFL but he was impressive early for the Bengals. I do think it was obvious he wasn't the caliber of QB that Herbert is, however. That much seems pretty obvious. 

Its a little early to act like Herbert is clearly the better pro among the two of them.  Burrow was playing really well before he got hurt.  

Lets give them both a few years, but both fanbases should be happy.

Also, and I wish I could find the tweet, but some of Herbert's unstable metrics were very high this year, very possible he regresses some in those.

[Sgt Schultz]

55 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's why I never have understood how Jameis gets poo on so much. He is that same style of player.

I don't get it, either.  That type of QB is going to throw interceptions.  They are also going to complete some passes nobody else would try.

Jameis' big problem at the end in Tampa was he got put into an offensive scheme that invites QB's to throw interceptions.  Only Arians could put a guy whose style and history suggest he is prone to throwing interceptions, into a system that will more likely than not increase the opportunities for interceptions, and then be upset when he throws more interceptions.  

They were saying Sunday during the Saints game that Payton is really high on Jameis.  He better be, because Hill is not the answer under center, other than on gadget plays.  I figured going to New Orleans would be good for Jameis.......and I was also afraid of that!

[AU-panther]

1 minute ago, Sgt Schultz said:

I don't get it, either.  That type of QB is going to throw interceptions.  They are also going to complete some passes nobody else would try.

Jameis' big problem at the end in Tampa was he got put into an offensive scheme that invites QB's to throw interceptions.  Only Arians could put a guy whose style and history suggest he is prone to throwing interceptions, into a system that will more likely than not increase the opportunities for interceptions, and then be upset when he throws more interceptions.  

They were saying Sunday during the Saints game that Payton is really high on Jameis.  He better be, because Hill is not the answer under center, other than on gadget plays.  I figured going to New Orleans would be good for Jameis.......and I was also afraid of that!

Great point about system, Arians QBs tend to throw a lot of Ints.

Would have been interesting to see Jameis in our system.  Really, would our W/L record have been any worse?  I don't think so.

[Varking]

3 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

Your "analysis" of QBs is obviously biased by who you have predetermined to like. 

Where was I wrong? 

[Varking]

3 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

I can tell you one thing he won’t find any WRs running open up there lol. 

Accurate 

[KatsAzz]

I will pass on taking Jones and will be surprised if he is taken before draft pick # 20.

[Beerfacedlegend]

He’s better than Lawrence 

[SmittysLawnGuy]

21 minutes ago, Beerfacedlegend said:

He’s better than Lawrence 

I like him too but I fear you may be getting a little beer faced with that stretch.

[kungfoodude]

5 hours ago, AU-panther said:

Great point about system, Arians QBs tend to throw a lot of Ints.

Would have been interesting to see Jameis in our system.  Really, would our W/L record have been any worse?  I don't think so.

I think we would have been far, far, far better.

[Beerfacedlegend]

12 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

Name an Alabama QB that turned out to be good...WRs won’t be that open in the NFL. Tua might eventually be good, but don’t forget people thought he was gods gift. 
 

Trey Lance is the best QB in this draft not named Trevor. 

Don’t want another mobile qb

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, Beerfacedlegend said:

Don’t want another mobile qb

You might want to look around the NFL, QB's that aren't mobile are a dying breed.