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LinvilleGorge Grand Master

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When you put him on a team that isn't head and shoulders above the competition I don't think it's going to be pretty. Don't get caught up in the results, look at the traits. I just don't think they translate. He's probably a mid-late round prospect if he wasn't playing at Bama with that supporting cast. Granted, that doesn't automatically mean he won't be a successful NFL QB. We've all seen successful mid-late round (and even UDFA QBs) QBs, they're just the exception not the norm.

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1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

Name an Alabama QB that turned out to be good...WRs won’t be that open in the NFL. Tua might eventually be good, but don’t forget people thought he was gods gift. 
 

Trey Lance is the best QB in this draft not named Trevor. 

we really have to stop saying players aren't going to be good bc they went to  a specific school. There is no evidence that any school offers the best at specific position. 

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1 minute ago, imminent rogaine said:

Man, it’s hard to tell with Mac. What is clear after these playoffs is that if we don’t walk away with at least one offensive lineman from one of these Two Squads, we screwed up. We’re going to have our shot at them if we want them. 
 

 

Leatherwood destroyed guys all night

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I think athleticism is overrated at the QB position. Look at the QBs still in the playoffs and tell me how athletic Brady, Brees, and even Rodgers is. Sure he had a great arm but is he athletic?  I think everyone wants a Mahomes clone and thinks they are the answer but honestly there aren't a bunch of them out there. So people want to take Lance for example over Jones when in my opinion Jones will be the better QB.  Given the system we run right now, Jones would be a great player and we'll worth our pick. He is light years ahead of Greer in his decisionmaking and isn't that after being a 1 year starter?  I guess it is good I have no say in this draft because I would pick Jones over Fields. But even worse for the QB crowd,, I would take Smith in the first and then maybe trade up later in the first for Jones if he were still there 

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1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

I thought the same thing, until i did my research in Dec. The kid might have the best arm talent in the draft. Def the best deep ball. 

Define 'best deep ball', because that's not really a test of arm talent. 

It's those 15 yard outs where you have to fire the ball in to beat the undercutting CB that are a test of arm talent.

Rainbowing the ball 40+ yards down the field any competent HS QB can do. 

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Just now, panthers55 said:

I think athleticism is overrated at the QB position. Look at the QBs still in the playoffs and tell me how athletic Brady, Brees, and even Rodgers is. Sure he had a great arm but is he athletic?  I think everyone wants a Mahomes clone and thinks they are the answer but honestly there aren't a bunch of them out there. So people want to take Lance for example over Jones when in my opinion Jones will be the better QB.  Given the system we run right now, Jones would be a great player and we'll worth our pick. He is light years ahead of Greer in his decisionmaking and isn't that after being a 1 year starter?  I guess it is good I have no say in this draft because I would pick Jones over Fields. But even worse for the QB crowd,, I would take Smith in the first and then maybe trade up later in the first for Jones if he were still there 

Rodgers and Brees are hella athletic. 

However, much like Brady, they win with ALL their tools and have set an impossible bar to be compared with. 

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2 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Define 'best deep ball', because that's not really a test of arm talent. 

It's those 15 yard outs where you have to fire the ball in to beat the undercutting CB that are a test of arm talent.

Rainbowing the ball 40+ yards down the field any competent HS QB can do. 

Honestly, if you take about 10min and read about scout's takes on many sites... you will see that they give prime examples of this. I spent about 45min on this and had my opinion flipped on the kid. Lots of good reads out there.

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I am by no means a NFL scout but to my eyes he looked head and shoulders above Fields last night.  I heard Todd Mcshay say this morning on the radio that he has mac at #5 (30 overall) and that was because of his lack of athleticism (says a young qb needs to make plays with his feet) and his lack of college games.  But he thinks Mac will shoot up the boards and be taken inside the 20.

 

I dont know man he has looked all world in every game I turned on this year.  There is just something about Fields that makes me scratch my head.  Something aint right about him

Yeah, Fields seems to struggle mightily any time he is faced with a decent defense.  Does not really bode well for his NFL stock.

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