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Carolina Panthers to be 'aggressive' in pursuit of potential Deshaun Watson trade


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14 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Lol this forum will think they won the super bowl going 4-12 with Watson as the Texans did and no means to build anything around 

then we can restart all the no weapons, no oline, no coaching, shitty ownership, no support, bias refs, everyone is racist threads from before 

awesome

you do realize there are other ways to build a team outside of the first round?

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3 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Yeah and it's going to sting to get rid of him. I keep going back to him being in the deal too.

Yeah, a lot of people seem hung up on CMC being involved in the deal but honestly, I'd be more upset about Burns being in the deal. CMC is a helluva player, but elite pass rushers are more valuable than elite RBs and Burns has three more years on his rookie deal. All of that adds up to him probably having more trade value than CMC. 

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6 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

With a no-trade clause, Watson holds the ultimate leverage on his potential destination.

A "no-trade clause" is quite valuable to a player who does not want to be traded...

...it is basically worthless to a player does want to be traded.

Virtually nobody seems to get this...that this is the case it truly baffling.

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Just now, SizzleBuzz said:

A "no-trade clause" is quite valuable to a player who does not want to be traded...

...it is basically worthless to a player does want to be traded.

Virtually nobody seems to get this...that this is the case it truly baffling.

Please explain.

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    • I feel like this trade just lives rent free in people's heads and keeps morphing into different things. First thing is that the rumored trade was for future firsts. They wouldn't have any extra picks in 2023; the firsts would have been for 2024 and 2025. With very few exceptions, NFL GMs don't value picks that far away. You have to have a lot of job security to pull that off. Like Chiefs, Eagles, Rams kinda stability. That's obviously not the case with David Tepper, especially since he'd just fired his head coach. No GM except for like Howie Roseman is going to trade an asset you have now for a future asset you probably get to use.  Second, at the time you'd have to assume these are first rounders late in the first round. Obviously currency is currency and the panthers need young players, but these weren't slam dunk top ten picks. At the end of the day there's one pick that separates a first and second round pick.  Lastly, the only place that ever reported this trade was the Rams. All the reporters just repeated what McVay said and it became gospel. We have no idea how serious the negotiations were, if they ever really happened, if the offer was real, etc. And I personally believe McVay and Sneed are the kind of guys who would make up rumors like that to fug up other teams, mostly because I assume if I've thought of it someone smarter than me has.  I don't know how you'd call it the greatest draft haul of all time. Firsts quickly lose their value the farther out they are and Burns had 16.5 sacks last season. And anyway those picks would probably just been tossed into the burning inferno of the Bryce trade up so it's a moot point anyway. 
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