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The 2009-2016 First Round Quarterbacks

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Been a lot of talk about this group lately so I thought I'd check out the list.

Be warned, looking at this list might make your eyes bleed (I disclaim all responsibility since you've been warned)

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2009

#1 - Matt Stafford, Georgia, Lions
#5 - Mark Sanchez, USC, Jets
#17 - Josh Freeman, Kansas State, Buccaneers

(I really thought Freeman was gonna be great)


2010

#1 - Sam Bradford, Oklahoma, Rams
#25 - Tim Teebow, Florida, Broncos

(had completely forgotten about #25 there)


2011

#1 - Cam Newton, Auburn, Panthers
#8 - Jake Locker, Washington, Titans
#10 - Blaine Gabbert, Missouri, Jaguars
#12 - Christian Ponder, Florida State, Vikings

(forgot Ponder too, but I'd be willing to bet a lot of people have)


2012

#1 - Andrew Luck, Stanford, Colts
#2 - Robert Griffin III, Baylor, Redskins
#8 - Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M, Dolphins
#22 - Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State, Browns

(spending a first round pick on Brandon Weeden... yikes)


2013

#16 - EJ Manuel, Florida State, Bills

(look at it this way, there weren't as many busts that year)


2014

#3 - Blake Bortles, Central Florida, Jaguars
#22 - Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M, Browns
#32 - Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville, Vikings

(that #32 pick...yeah)


2015

#1 - Jameis Winston, Florida State, Buccaneers
#2 - Marcus Mariota, Oregon, Titans

(Winston is a free agent but the Saints want him back; speculation the Raiders might trade Mariota)


2016

#1 - Jared Goff, California, Rams
#2 - Carson Wentz, North Dakota State, Eagles
#26 - Paxton Lynch, Memphis, Broncos

(is Lynch still in the league? I'm thinking no)

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Oy 😳

Sooo...who's up for drafting a quarterback with our top ten pick? 😕

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That's a big yikes list. Also, thought Freeman was going to be good. I have more faith in the front office now that Hurney is gone, but he hit that first round out of the park. If he was smart he would just take a job as a first round consultant, the rest of his drafts were as bad as that list, but that first round was always good. As someone that has no inside info or pretends to be in the know, I'm pretty stoked to see just how or draft unfolds.

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Manziel...damn.

I was desperately hoping the Cowboys would take him. Word was that Jerry Jones really wanted to but everybody in the Cowboys draft room was fighting to talk him out of it. Practically had to tie him to a chair.

I remember there being a story that either a cab driver or a homeless guy told Jim Haslam he should pick Manziel and he listened. That was as Cleveland Browns a story as there ever was.

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So where the hell are we supposed to get a QB from then?  Are the QB bust rates any higher than any other position drafted in the 1st round?  

Also, why did you stop at 2016?  There have been many stud QBs drafted in the first round since then, who seem to be doing OK with the team that drafted them.  2016 was 5 years ago now - ancient history in the NFL.

Moral of the story is that the draft is a crap shoot - regardless of the round and where the player is picked.  

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11 minutes ago, joemac said:

So where the hell are we supposed to get a QB from then?  Are the QB bust rates any higher than any other position drafted in the 1st round?  

Also, why did you stop at 2016?  There have been many stud QBs drafted in the first round since then, who seem to be doing OK with the team that drafted them.  2016 was 5 years ago now - ancient history in the NFL.

Moral of the story is that the draft is a crap shoot - regardless of the round and where the player is picked.  

It's just noting a trend from those particular years. Guys drafted from 2017 forward would still be on their rookie contracts.

And to be clear, it's not going to stop teams from drafting quarterbacks high, but obviously they need to do a better job of either drafting the right ones or developing the ones they draft.

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Feels a little disingenuous not including recent drafts. Id say 9/15 of the 1st round QBs since 2017 are pretty damn good. The number is much higher if I include players I'd take over Teddy in a heartbeat.

 

2017

2. Mitchell Trubisky (Traded up for)

10. Patrick Mahomes (Traded up for)

12. Deshaun Watson (Traded up for)

 

2018

1. Baker Mayfield 

3. Sam Darnold (Traded up for)

7. Josh Allen (Traded up for)

10. Josh Rosen (Traded up for)

32. Lamar Jackson (Traded up for)

 

2019

1. Kyler Murray 

6. Daniel Jones 

15  Dwayne Haskins

 

2020

1. Joe Burrow

5. Tua Tagavalola

6. Justin Herbert

26. Jordan Love (Traded up for)

 

 

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