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Who had a better rookie season - Cam in 2011 or LaMelo this year?

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4 minutes ago, CRA said:

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it's turned into soccer.    

 

That’s is from 5+ years ago. Adam Silver has been doing as much as he can to get flopping like that out of the game. If you flop now you can expect a fine to be coming your way in the next few days. 
 

Players will do whatever  they can to gain a competitive advantage over another team. Just like in the NFL. There is no consistency with things like pass interference and holding. Hell if NFL players are starting to flop to get calls. It happens at least once a game now where a receiver will flail his arms and fall down mid route trying to get a PI call after the slightest contact.

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2 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

That’s is from 5+ years ago. Adam Silver has been doing as much as he can to get flopping like that out of the game. If you flop now you can expect a fine to be coming your way in the next few days. 
 

Players will do whatever  they can to gain a competitive advantage over another team. Just like in the NFL. There is no consistency with things like pass interference and holding. Hell if NFL players are starting to flop to get calls. It happens at least once a game now where a receiver will flail his arms and fall down mid route trying to get a PI call after the slightest contact.

Sure, it happens some. But watch basketball in comparison. A defender is brushed by a driving offensive player and they act like they got hit by a freight train. Drive and flail has become an actual offensive strategy. Just drive to the basket and if anyone attempts to defend just flail like you got hit by a taser and shoot FTs. It's complete bullshit.

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4 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

That’s is from 5+ years ago. Adam Silver has been doing as much as he can to get flopping like that out of the game. If you flop now you can expect a fine to be coming your way in the next few days. 
 

Players will do whatever  they can to gain a competitive advantage over another team. Just like in the NFL. There is no consistency with things like pass interference and holding. Hell if NFL players are starting to flop to get calls. It happens at least once a game now where a receiver will flail his arms and fall down mid route trying to get a PI call after the slightest contact.

The hating on basketball is a constant moving of the goal post exercise...

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This and it isn't a new development. This has been a trend for at least 20 years. I think a lot of younger fans don't see it because it's all they've ever known.

David Stern wanted to change the image of the NBA in the early 2000s after the malice in the palace incident. Fights on the court were nearly a nightly occurrence up to that point.

Both the NBA and NFL have made major changes to their rules in the name of player safety that you could argue are making the leagues “soft”.

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Just now, Eazy-E said:

Both the NBA and NFL have made major changes to their rules in the name of player safety that you could argue are making the leagues “soft”.

No doubt about that. I understand it from the NFL's perspective. Football is a brutal sport even with the rules emphasizing player protection.

All of the acting in basketball detracts from the game IMO and makes it difficult to officiate (coming from a former basketball ref). When you have guys comically flopping and flailing all over the place, it makes it kind of desensitizes you to make it harder to recognize fouls where the player is actually trying to play through the illegal contact.

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5 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

David Stern wanted to change the image of the NBA in the early 2000s after the malice in the palace incident. Fights on the court were nearly a nightly occurrence up to that point.

Both the NBA and NFL have made major changes to their rules in the name of player safety that you could argue are making the leagues “soft”.

It has become more soft in the name of player safety taking constant advantage of the spirit of the rule is a lack of competitive integrity.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Sure, it happens some. But watch basketball in comparison. A defender is brushed by a driving offensive player and they act like they got hit by a freight train. Drive and flail has become an actual offensive strategy. Just drive to the basket and if anyone attempts to defend just flail like you got hit by a taser and shoot FTs. It's complete bullshit.

Run a post route and if the DB gets to close to you flail your arms up and wait for that yellow flag to get thrown.

Both leagues have this problem because they are making harder to play defense in the name of safety. 
 

One league is actively trying to find a way to combat the issue. The other seems to be getting worse year after year.

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