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Round 1 - Carolina Panthers Select CB Jaycee Horn


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So wait, are you telling me this isnt the bestest qb class in the history of time?  I thought qb's were going 1-5?  What the hell happened.  I commend Fit for getting Darnold.  He is probably better than anyone not named Trevor or Wilson but damn I still am trying to process the Horn pick.  

 

And Bill Belichick just mindfuged the NFL again

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

So wait, are you telling me this isnt the bestest qb class in the history of time?  I thought qb's were going 1-5?  What the hell happened.  I commend Fit for getting Darnold.  He is probably better than anyone not named Trevor or Wilson but damn I still am trying to process the Horn pick.  

 

And Bill Belichick just mindfuged the NFL again

Bill took a weak armed, out of shape guy with off the field concerns. I don't consider that a mind fug

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I dont know why everyone is upset we didnt get Fields. Last I looked on our roster we have Darnold, Walker, Stevens and the great Will Grier... why draft another QB, who is no better than who we already have? I would have maybe Drafted Lance... but the QB talent went Lance, Jones, Wilson and Lawrence... who we chose fills a gap and a need... I'm happy with it. 

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Look, I had no inkling this was going to be our guy. I didn't think we'd address secondary until much later in the draft. I felt we needed O-line more than anything and I still think we do.

That being said... Horn is our guy now and a Panther. I'm going to cheer for him and I hope he has an outstanding, HoF career here. 

We did have massive problems with the defense last season. We just could not get the opposing team off the field in so many of our games. I think there were four or five games (maybe more) where the other team never had to punt a single time. And we lost a lot of those games by a single score. 

If our offense can continue to improve and this CB can just break up a few passes per game, then we could win some simple as that. If he becomes the guy that other teams just hate to see roll out into coverage against their WR1 then we're golden.

I'm trusting that there's a plan in the works here. It took 2016-2019 to ruin the team, it might take more than a single season to rebuild it.

Congrats Jaycee, do us proud!

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Mac at 15 is incredible value.  He just mindfuged the NFL again.  Who gives a fug about a DUI?

After Aaron Hernandez and Patrick Chung, I don't think Belichick cares what happens off the field with his players. Heck even Mike Vrabel got arrested.

Me, I think character counts, but Bill hoists trophies. 

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