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Some Fields Perspective

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Here's a draft grade I saw that I think was pretty spot on.

 

No. 8: Carolina Panthers: Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina

You know the Panthers are devastated by getting thiiiis close to Penei Sewell and missing out. It’s almost like the shock spooked them into making a pick, and it’s the wrong one. I don’t care if there’s an argument to putting Horn above Patrick Surtain II, the Panthers just put all their faith in quarterback in a Sam Darnold reclamation project and left Justin Fields on the board. Taking Fields would have been a tough choice too, but this was unquestionably a bad one. Not trading out of the pick, not gambling on upside. It was safe, and Carolina needed to take a swing.

Grade: D

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1 hour ago, Pazhoosier89 said:

If it makes anyone feel better the same GM who traded up to get Fields traded up to get Trubisky while Watson and Mahomes were on the board. Not exactly great QB evaluators there.

Rhule so far has chosen Teddy and Darnold...I would take Trubisky and Fields over those 2.

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5 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Here's a draft grade I saw that I think was pretty spot on.

 

No. 8: Carolina Panthers: Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina

You know the Panthers are devastated by getting thiiiis close to Penei Sewell and missing out. It’s almost like the shock spooked them into making a pick, and it’s the wrong one. I don’t care if there’s an argument to putting Horn above Patrick Surtain II, the Panthers just put all their faith in quarterback in a Sam Darnold reclamation project and left Justin Fields on the board. Taking Fields would have been a tough choice too, but this was unquestionably a bad one. Not trading out of the pick, not gambling on upside. It was safe, and Carolina needed to take a swing.

Grade: D

Thats a bit harsh. 

 

I do wish we could have offered our third to Det to flip picks.  That might have worked

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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

Whom pretty much everyone says was a reach at 8

The Panthers didn't think so.

And I don't really give a sh-t what everyone thinks until we see them take the field. There are few things in this world more useless than draft grades in April.

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1 hour ago, Shotgun said:

Here's a draft grade I saw that I think was pretty spot on.

 

No. 8: Carolina Panthers: Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina

You know the Panthers are devastated by getting thiiiis close to Penei Sewell and missing out. It’s almost like the shock spooked them into making a pick, and it’s the wrong one. I don’t care if there’s an argument to putting Horn above Patrick Surtain II, the Panthers just put all their faith in quarterback in a Sam Darnold reclamation project and left Justin Fields on the board. Taking Fields would have been a tough choice too, but this was unquestionably a bad one. Not trading out of the pick, not gambling on upside. It was safe, and Carolina needed to take a swing.

Grade: D

Just for anyone who's curious where this came from and how the individual who wrote the grade feels about the rest of the round (ya know, context):

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2021/4/29/22409582/nfl-draft-2021-results-pick-by-pick-grades-first-round

Myself I'm not sure that taking (arguably) the best (or best fit for this division) player at his position AND plugging a huge area of need on this team qualifies as one of the 4 worst picks in the draft.  Maybe it ends up being that way but Dator believes only 2 picks are worse and one is equally bad?  k.  It's a silly take and its done its job I suppose.  

I'm equally not sure that James Dator is so plugged in he could declare that the team was "spooked" - that's beyond silly.  No way that they just went "well Sewell is gone and no one wants to trade for this pick - so we're just gonna take the next guy on our board" right?

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2 minutes ago, mwright350 said:

Just for anyone who's curious where this came from and how the individual who wrote the grade feels about the rest of the round (ya know, context):

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2021/4/29/22409582/nfl-draft-2021-results-pick-by-pick-grades-first-round

Myself I'm not sure that taking (arguably) the best (or best fit for this division) player at his position AND plugging a huge area of need on this team qualifies as one of the 4 worst picks in the draft.  Maybe it ends up being that way but Dator believes only 2 picks are worse and one is equally bad?  k.  It's a silly take and its done its job I suppose.  

I'm equally not sure that James Dator is so plugged in he could declare that the team was "spooked" - that's beyond silly.  No way that they just went "well Sewell is gone and no one wants to trade for this pick - so we're just gonna take the next guy on our board" right?

I agree with his assessment other than the spooked part, that does seem silly.  

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25 minutes ago, mwright350 said:

Just for anyone who's curious where this came from and how the individual who wrote the grade feels about the rest of the round (ya know, context):

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2021/4/29/22409582/nfl-draft-2021-results-pick-by-pick-grades-first-round

Myself I'm not sure that taking (arguably) the best (or best fit for this division) player at his position AND plugging a huge area of need on this team qualifies as one of the 4 worst picks in the draft.  Maybe it ends up being that way but Dator believes only 2 picks are worse and one is equally bad?  k.  It's a silly take and its done its job I suppose.  

I'm equally not sure that James Dator is so plugged in he could declare that the team was "spooked" - that's beyond silly.  No way that they just went "well Sewell is gone and no one wants to trade for this pick - so we're just gonna take the next guy on our board" right?

That was Dator?

No wonder it sounded stupid.

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26 minutes ago, mwright350 said:

Just for anyone who's curious where this came from and how the individual who wrote the grade feels about the rest of the round (ya know, context):

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2021/4/29/22409582/nfl-draft-2021-results-pick-by-pick-grades-first-round

Myself I'm not sure that taking (arguably) the best (or best fit for this division) player at his position AND plugging a huge area of need on this team qualifies as one of the 4 worst picks in the draft.  Maybe it ends up being that way but Dator believes only 2 picks are worse and one is equally bad?  k.  It's a silly take and its done its job I suppose.  

I'm equally not sure that James Dator is so plugged in he could declare that the team was "spooked" - that's beyond silly.  No way that they just went "well Sewell is gone and no one wants to trade for this pick - so we're just gonna take the next guy on our board" right?

fuging Dator.

He literally has no idea what he's talking about.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's a bit dumb.

They weren't "spooked" into making a pick. They just took the next guy on their board.

I've no idea how they felt about Sewell - considering they passed over Slater too, who actually knows.

That said, I've no doubt they were working the phones hard for those 10 minutes.

In the end they didn't get a trade down offer they liked so took the best player on their board - which just so happened to be a CB with tremendous upside. The only reason Dator is finding fault with that is because he's one of those "if you don't have a franchise QB you might as well blow it all up" guys. 

 

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