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QB1 Prediction (2021 Stats)


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I think it will be closer to his college level of production because coaching and overall situation will be better.

Just going throw this at the wall....

275 completions

3500 yards

30-35 TDs (rushing included)

<15 INTs

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43 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

My guess is his stats take a jump on par with Alex Smith his first year he had competent coaching with Harbaugh

20 TDs

13 INTs

3400 yards

61% Completion percentage.

Not a jump that would put him in the pro bowl, but a big enough jump that he shows enough improvement for us to hold onto him for the future. 

That's not even a jump for Darnold.  Thats 2019.

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He needs to move forward.  65% completion, 2:1 TD to INT, 3500+ yards.

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1 hour ago, BrianS said:

That's not even a jump for Darnold.  Thats 2019.

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He needs to move forward.  65% completion, 2:1 TD to INT, 3500+ yards.

Well Damn, I was erring on the side of caution because he was so bad last season. He took a GIANT step back last year.

If he's not broken, there's no reason he couldn't go 3500 yards, 25 TDs and under 10 INTs next year in a system with a ton of support. 

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1 hour ago, CarolinaLivin said:

As log as the run game is there and we aren't forcing him to throw 40-50 times a game, I am sure he will have a career year across the board. 

It would be a disaster for our front office.  They have done nearly the impossible and have put a decent squad in front of Darnold.  So many weapons and now a decent line.

Darnold doesn't have to put this team on his back the whole game.  We need him to be consistent and if it comes down to the final drive for a win or lose.  Than I expect him to put his big boy pants on and lead this team down the field for the win. 

If he fails it will be on him and the front office.   Not to mention the huge buffet of all you can eat crow for many of the huddle faithful, including myself.  

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1 minute ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

It would be a disaster for our front office.  They have done nearly the impossible and have put a decent squad in front of Darnold.  So many weapons and now a decent line.

Darnold doesn't have to put this team on his back the whole game.  We need him to be consistent and if it comes down to the final drive for a win or lose.  Than I expect him to put his big boy pants on and lead this team down the field for the win. 

If he fails it will be on him and the front office.   Not to mention the huge buffet of all you can eat crow for many of the huddle faithful, including myself.  

We have made the Panthers very Darnold friendly. Maybe one more move for the OL, if that. He should have no problem improving. Not to mention a defense that could turn a lot of heads next year. If Darnold can take care of the football, we should be happily in a wild-card spot. 

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2 minutes ago, CarolinaLivin said:

We have made the Panthers very Darnold friendly. Maybe one more move for the OL, if that. He should have no problem improving. Not to mention a defense that could turn a lot of heads next year. If Darnold can take care of the football, we should be happily in a wild-card spot. 

We'll see what the schedule looks like soon.  I think if he can get a couple of wins early.  He'll gain confidence and be on the way to answering our QB situation. 

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Just now, DaveThePanther2008 said:

We'll see what the schedule looks like soon.  I think if he can get a couple of wins early.  He'll gain confidence and be on the way to answering our QB situation. 

How comfortable Darnold is in the first 3 games will determine our season

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3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm just hoping for boom or bust. Either be the one or be the one who gets us the one.

Yep.  One or the other is better long-term.  

I also firmly believe part of the passing on Fields is to legitimately give Darnold a chance this year to see if he can become the guy he was projected to be.

If Darnold fails, I think we will again be all-in on Watson (provided he settles his legal/civil issues) , and have better assets to facilitate a trade

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There is nothing that will make me happier a Panthers fan that to get the Bucs in Week 2 and get a season-defining win against the reigning SB Champions like we did in 2003.

I just looked at the power rankings and absolutely no one is giving us any respect (most I've seen have us last in the division).  But they did in 2003 also, and I feel we have just had the most transformative offseason we've had since that special season...

Who knows what will happen, but I think we crushed free agency and the draft.  This team (on paper) is much, much improved from last year. 

I tip my hat to Rhule and Fitterer.  Our roster was one of (if not the worst) in the NFL last season before last year's draft... these guys have done a masterful job building it back up.  Seriously, before the last draft, the only truly elite players on our roster were CMC, Burns, and maybe DJ Moore.  

We are a long ways from that... 

Rhule, Brady, and Snow need to earn their paycheck and coach these guys up, and we could be in a good spot at the end of the year.

I think having the 17th game definitely favors youth and having better depth.  For way too long, we have neglected quality depth in favor of trying to hit on more elite talent... and outside of the 1st round, it simply hasn't worked, and injuries have left us playing guys that shouldn't be out there

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1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Well Damn, I was erring on the side of caution because he was so bad last season. He took a GIANT step back last year.

If he's not broken, there's no reason he couldn't go 3500 yards, 25 TDs and under 10 INTs next year in a system with a ton of support. 

totally agreed. that should be about his floor...well...i'd bump the INTs up a little more. he's got a bit of gunslinger in him. but i'm ok with that as long as we are winning and he's around a 2:1 TD INT ratio.

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