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8 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

You are one of my favorite posters so I’m not trying to bait you into debate. Just throwing out a counter point of view. I’m not an  anti vaxxer at all. But I am hesitant on this one. It’s not CDC approved, but emergency approved. And I remember when the left (I include myself here as a support of Bernie) rallied behind Sanders and his crusade against big pharma. 
 

Fast forward a few years and you are an imbecile if you question Moderna or Pfizer on a rushed vaccine that you cannot sue them for. Again, I have no problem with vaccines but this one only has emergency approval and the ones making this thing have an ugly track record.

 

I don’t want to be tinder boxed, so I’ll leave it here. I just don’t get the hate for those questioning this thing. I feel like many here judging those who aren’t getting it we’re also rallying with Bernie Sanders going after these same people, you know? I mean it wasn’t long ago that Sanders was calling out Pfizer specifically. 
 

I’m good with anyone that wants to get it. I just don’t get the sudden hate for those distrusting of these big pharma companies.

Im vaccinated, but I get your point. My brother is the same way. He’s vaccinated and so are his kids; but he’s not sold on this one, mainly due to his distrust of the government.

 

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1 minute ago, WilmyWood said:

Im vaccinated, but I get your point. My brother is the same way. He’s vaccinated and so are his kids; but he’s not sold on this one, mainly due to his distrust of the government.

 

Exactly. The thing is me expressing this makes people get really mad. But I just have the Joe Rogan mentality that I’m 31 and I’m healthy so I just feel more comfortable waiting on this one. It’s not like I am opposed to all vaccines. I’m just uneasy with how fast this one has been pushed and I am not not of the demographics that tends to struggle with Covid. 

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14 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Are they actually going to monitor people's vax records? Grocery store customers etc are going to be a nightmare but private workplaces I guess it depends on if the boss is anti-vax or a normal human

Basically if you choose to disclose your proof of vaccination, you get to no longer wear your mask. Everyone has an ID badge here, so you will get a sticker on your badge showing you are exempt. 

 

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16 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

You are one of my favorite posters so I’m not trying to bait you into debate. Just throwing out a counter point of view. I’m not an  anti vaxxer at all. But I am hesitant on this one. It’s not CDC approved, but emergency approved. And I remember when the left (I include myself here as a support of Bernie) rallied behind Sanders and his crusade against big pharma. 
 

Fast forward a few years and you are an imbecile if you question Moderna or Pfizer on a rushed vaccine that you cannot sue them for. Again, I have no problem with vaccines but this one only has emergency approval and the ones making this thing have an ugly track record.

 

I don’t want to be tinder boxed, so I’ll leave it here. I just don’t get the hate for those questioning this thing. I feel like many here judging those who aren’t getting it we’re also rallying with Bernie Sanders going after these same people, you know? I mean it wasn’t long ago that Sanders was calling out Pfizer specifically. 
 

I’m good with anyone that wants to get it. I just don’t get the sudden hate for those distrusting of these big pharma companies.

It's a calculated risk, to be sure. But they are required to actually finish their studies.

I was initially skeptical but the more I read into the research, it was a risk I was willing to take. 

And let me be completely clear, I was never scared of this virus. Ever. I literally only took the vaccine because I didn't want to be sitting at home for 2+ weeks not getting paid. It's not even that I need the money, I'm just greedy.

So, the money was worth the risk to me personally.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

It's a calculated risk, to be sure. But they are required to actually finish their studies.

I was initially skeptical but the more I read into the research, it was a risk I was willing to take. 

And let me be completely clear, I was never scared of this virus. Ever. I literally only took the vaccine because I didn't want to be sitting at home for 2+ weeks not getting paid. It's not even that I need the money, I'm just greedy.

So, the money was worth the risk to me personally.

Hey I completely understand and most of my family has gotten it. I’m just hesitant and I don’t trust pharma at all. And three members of my family are doctors lol. 
 

I just hate that I keep getting lumped in with the anti vaxx crowd. I’ve never been one of them but this one definitely has me hesitant. And honestly, I wouldn’t anticipate myself getting this thing for a long time. I want those studies proceed for awhile before I am jabbed. Or maybe I’ve just become a crazy paranoid person, I don’t know. Probably lol

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23 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

STFB from 16? Nice. Overseas pickup, in that case.

Have a few of those in the cabinet.

Yes sir. Went on a cruise, got one gold and one STFB. $110.00 for both.

Been savoring them ever since can’t seem to find any in stores now that they’re ‘legal’, but I think there is still a cap on proof depending on where you live.

Time for another cruise soon as it’s feasible.

Keep em in the cabinet if they’re newish, I find about the 3 year mark from dump they are so much better...of course they’re already great.

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1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

Are they actually going to monitor people's vax records? Grocery store customers etc are going to be a nightmare but private workplaces I guess it depends on if the boss is anti-vax or a normal human

I gave employee's a $300 bonus to get vaccinated.  Masks will be optional soon for those vaccinated.  Still 2 employees out of 14 that do not want to be vaccinated and that is their choice.  Gotta love a free country you know.

 

oh, sorry, Clos du Bois, Cab,  $9.99 on sale from Lowes.  No cheese.

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1 hour ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

Hey I completely understand and most of my family has gotten it. I’m just hesitant and I don’t trust pharma at all. And three members of my family are doctors lol. 
 

I just hate that I keep getting lumped in with the anti vaxx crowd. I’ve never been one of them but this one definitely has me hesitant. And honestly, I wouldn’t anticipate myself getting this thing for a long time. I want those studies proceed for awhile before I am jabbed. Or maybe I’ve just become a crazy paranoid person, I don’t know. Probably lol

Oh I don't trust them either. In fairness, this process has been pretty fuging transparent and involved enough entities that they would have to have a lot of people on board to intentionally fuging over so many. Plus, it really doesn't behoove them to have this thing to continue either. 

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