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Questions about Newton's status in NE?

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38 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Yes he is, Newton played with an absolute trash roster. Our #3 WR in Samuel was better than anything they had and Cam still had the same amount of TDs as shitwater. 

Technically Cam had 1 more td.

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1 hour ago, Car123 said:

Yes, he is. He was better than Bridgewater.

Lol no, he wasn’t.

Other than weapons Cam was given a playoff caliber team and coaching easy. One of the best olines in the NFL, too 10 defense 7th in points allowed...best special teams in the NFL.

TB preformed better with better weapons sure (aside from RB), but also with a god awful team all around and a back up RB compared to Cam and a new college coach.

Yea, no, sorry.

As much as you patriot cam fans don’t want to admit it, cam was just as much of a problem in NE as his shitty receivers.

 

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11 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Lol no, he wasn’t.

Other than weapons Cam was given a playoff caliber team and coaching easy. One of the best olines in the NFL, too 10 defense 7th in points allowed...best special teams in the NFL.

TB preformed better with better weapons sure (aside from RB), but also with a god awful team all around and a back up RB compared to Cam and a new college coach.

Yea, no, sorry.

As much as you patriot cam fans don’t want to admit it, cam was just as much of a problem in NE as his shitty receivers.

 

Depends on what you mean as better. Carolinas weapons were absolutely better last year.

Just because TB can check down and pad his stats to look competent doesn’t mean better. If he can’t lead the team and play clutch football then it’s all pointless. He put up phantom stats to suckass with the game on the line. Big deal.


 

 

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18 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

Depends on what you mean as better. Carolinas weapons were absolutely better last year.

Just because TB can check down and pad his stats to look competent doesn’t mean better. If he can’t lead the team and play clutch football then it’s all pointless. He put up phantom stats to suckass with the game on the line. Big deal.


 

 

TB was checking down under a much worse oline and a defense who always made him play catch up without a HB to make a difference. No doubt TB sucks, no one is disputing that. 

But Cam was simply throwing balls in the dirt with great protection, decent HB play, whether his shitty weapons were finally open or he was checking down or not. And a defense/ST that rarely  put him behind.

Difference is Cam has way more potential than TB if he can get over his injury, no one is disputing that either. In fact Cam has so much potential, you’ll see it even if his weapons suck. 2015 obviously. 

 

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57 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Lol no, he wasn’t.

Other than weapons Cam was given a playoff caliber team and coaching easy. One of the best olines in the NFL, too 10 defense 7th in points allowed...best special teams in the NFL.

TB preformed better with better weapons sure (aside from RB), but also with a god awful team all around and a back up RB compared to Cam and a new college coach.

Yea, no, sorry.

As much as you patriot cam fans don’t want to admit it, cam was just as much of a problem in NE as his shitty receivers.

 

Playoff caliber team? You are high. They shredded everyone from Logan mankins to opt-outs that team was not a playoff caliber team with or without Newton.

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4 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Playoff caliber team? You are high. They shredded everyone from Logan mankins to opt-outs that team was not a playoff caliber team with or without Newton.

As I said besides shitty weapons and shitty qb play, yes, stats, history and ranks compared to the rest of the NFL say otherwise.

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On 5/19/2021 at 7:55 PM, PootieNunu said:

Dalvin cook cant stay healthy, other than that great comparisons. 

Of course you are talking about 2nd and 3rd round picks which this franchise has historically not valued. 

We like picking the slowest safeties or a gadget QB.

Cook blew his ACL out his rookie year, since then he’s missed 9 games in 3 years. McCaffrey missed 13 last year with multiple injuries, but none were season ending.. Not sure how this makes one guy injury prone and the other not.

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On 5/19/2021 at 1:13 PM, Ready 2 Win said:

ugg...this AGAIN? We had to endure the Watson mess getting pinned, and how Cam?

Cam is not coming back here to be a backup to a 23 year old. 

For so many people that complain about Ron Rivera being stubborn and not willing to move on from vets...some of you are just like him.

But cam IS gonna resign with the panthers!....(in a few years when he's ready to retire and we do a 1 day contract so he can retire a panther).

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12 hours ago, onmyown said:

As I said besides shitty weapons and shitty qb play, yes, stats, history and ranks compared to the rest of the NFL say otherwise.

I mean I disagree. A team that lost brady gronk,Edelman out for the season, Ben Watson, not to mention the offensive line subtractions, Jamie Collins signing with Detroit. Not sure if they lost Hightower or he opted out. Lost Kyle vanoy.. a playoff caliber team???? They didn't add much they just lost players thats a rebuild.

You don't get better losing players.

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