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Panthers Confidential - A Look Into the Panthers Offseason

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glenwo2 Grand Master

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28 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't think the Panthers are "hiding" anything. We liked the option of trading a future 2nd and a couple of late rounders for Darnold better than drafting Fields at #8. Time will tell if that turns out to be smart or not. We'll see if the President of the Sam Darnold Fan Club follows him to his next stop if it doesn't work out here. We already know MrScot will convince himself that somehow this was still part of the Panthers' grand plan and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.

How the hell did you become a Mod?   

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

could of been Fiesta Taco Salad.  I don't know.  I know there is an F.  And it likely involved trading down in the first.  That still leaves Fields and Farley.   It's probably not a Fiesta Taco Salad from Taco Bell but maybe a team could have that sent that to the draft room as part of the deal.  Again, I told you I don't talk in absolutes about things I can't possibly be sure of.    Rhule could be that big of a Taco Bell fan.   

Fields as a trade back option doesn't really make sense, especially from a team who thought he could be used as bait for someone else to trade up.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Fields as a trade back option doesn't really make sense, especially from a team who thought he could be used as bait for someone else to trade up.

again, it all depends what reports and rumors you want to go off of.  Pretty sure you were more on the Chris Simms side of things where Fields had odds of being a later pick and not top of the draft trade bait. 

but if the Panthers were willing to trade back and then still pass on Fields/Mac? (and you know I don't like Mac at all)......well, I'm ready for the next era.  Value would have been way too good IMO. 

 

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11 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

How the hell did you become a Mod?   

In his defense he was against Teddy originally and seemed to be pretty spot on. It’s ok to have doubt about a player, especially reasonable doubt backed by data. It’s not like he is wanting Darnold to fail, just skeptical... 

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Just now, CRA said:

again, it all depends what reports and rumors you want to go off of.  Pretty sure you were more on the Chris Simms side of things where Fields had odds of being a later pick and not top of the draft trade bait. 

but if the Panthers were willing to trade back and then still pass on Fields/Mac? (and you know I don't like Mac at all)......well, I'm ready for the next era.  Value would have been way too good IMO. 

 

I thought Simms predictions for Fields were kind of silly.

Actually figured there was a decent chance someone would trade up and take him before us, but that didn't happen.

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18 minutes ago, CRA said:

could of been Fiesta Taco Salad.  I don't know.  I know there is an F.  And it likely involved trading down in the first.  That still leaves Fields and Farley.   It's probably not a Fiesta Taco Salad from Taco Bell but maybe a team could have that sent to the war room as part of a deal.  Again, I told you I don't talk in absolutes about things I can't possibly be sure of.    Rhule could be that big of a Taco Bell fan.   

 

 

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On 5/27/2021 at 8:18 AM, Mr. Scot said:

I'll be interested to see the context of the war room shot here.

Guessing that was part of a trade negotiation.

Tepper shouldn't even be present...

...right?

Any confirmation of who Fitterer reports to?

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6 minutes ago, 1usctrojan said:

Damn.....guys and going catty over the QB position....

Longstanding tradition here 😄

For my part, I'm hopeful but I have no idea how good (or bad) Darnold is going to be. I do think people acting like the Panthers were basically forced to take him at gunpoint are being kinda silly though 

Will he work out? Don't know, but the team wanted him and they got him, so here's hoping.

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Longstanding tradition here 😄

For my part, I'm hopeful but I have no idea how good (or bad) Darnold is going to be. I do think people acting like the Panthers were basically forced to take him at gunpoint are being kinda silly though 

Will he work out? Don't know, but the team wanted him and they got him, so here's hoping.

That’s all you can do....I always wait to voice an opinion that I might have to eat crow over, and I hate being wrong!

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9 minutes ago, 1usctrojan said:

That’s all you can do....I always wait to voice an opinion that I might have to eat crow over, and I hate being wrong!

In fifty plus years, I've been wrong plenty of times so it's so it's not a big deal. That, plus my relationship status guarantees I'm gonna be told I'm wrong on a regular basis 😄

More to the point though, it's just football. Not like we're arguing over something important 🙂

As for me, I just prefer to make an informed opinion. I'm not trying to be Miss Cleo... or Jim Rome, for that matter.

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7 minutes ago, Martin said:

Voth is confirming it wasn’t Fields:


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This is stupid. They had no issue naming a bunch of players they were thinking about taking.

Why would they blur out a name unless they thought it would stir up some poo?

The name was Fields and they are just covering their butts in case Fields outplays Sam.

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      something to feel good about in the offseason..."could be something special brewing in Carolina"

      By tukafan21 · Posted

      Then don't tune in. It's really not a hard concept to understand, if your making your decision based on your own personal needs/feelings as opposed to what is best for the future of the franchise, then it's a you problem, not a Panthers problem. When the season is already lost, every fan should be rooting for the same thing.  The team plays hard until the final whistle of the season and keeps improving as a team and individually, but in the end, we still come up short and lose games, and preferably because the other team beat us, not because we screwed up and found a way to lose due to our own fault. Look at it this way... If we are up 1 or 2 points with 3 seconds left in the game and the other team is lining up for a FG.  Beyond the joy of victory or the disappointment of defeat, what impact does the other team making or missing the FG have on our team the following season? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING Except where we draft and what teams we play due to our finish in the division. The players and coaches on the team would have the exact same level of improvement and learnings about themselves individually and as a team whether the FG is made or missed.  The ONLY difference in the end is the record in the standings and if the win or loss number changes. If you want to argue if making the playoffs to lose in the first round or just missing them is better or worse, that's totally fair and I can at least understand the other side of it.  But in what is already a lost season, if you're not hoping your team plays well but ends up losing, then you're cutting off your nose to spite your face.  You're hoping for a moment of happiness at the detriment of the franchise's future, and in turn, you're basically then happy for a moment to only set yourself up for future further disappointment.
    • HaricotVert
      something to feel good about in the offseason..."could be something special brewing in Carolina"

      By HaricotVert · Posted

      If we’re eliminated I want the wins more.   The season is already a disappointment and if I’m not pulling for wins why bother to tune in?
    • tukafan21
      something to feel good about in the offseason..."could be something special brewing in Carolina"

      By tukafan21 · Posted

      Two things terribly wrong with this post. First is that not one time has myself or anyone else agreeing with me said that the team themselves should think that way or try and lose for positioning.  Never once have I suggested the team should purposefully lose games, ever.  I honestly can't understand why people keep saying this in posts, not one fan has ever said the players should or would purposefully try to lose. And second, is yes, that has happened and it's happened very recently.  The 2020 Bengals were 4-11-1 and then were playing in the SB the very next season.   And while it might have been 2 years later and they didn't quite get to the SB, the 2021 Lions were 3-13-1 and then the 2023 Lions were up 24-7 at halftime of the NFC Championship game. The season between those two? They finished 9-8 and only just missed the playoffs. Which is why I keep trying to compare us to the Lions in where we are at in our re-build.  Throw out Bryce's rookie year with the Reich staff who just didn't work out and he looked god awful.   This past season when we were 5-12 in Canales' 1st season is that 2021 season for the Lions and their 1st season under Campbell.  This year is their 2022 where they grew a ton and Campbell's culture building was clear, where I'm saying we'd likely be better off in the long run if we go 8-9 or 9-8 and just miss out on the playoffs (which is still a significant improvement from last year).  Then our 2026 is their 2024 when we have a chance to be a real contender after adding a few more pieces and our key players having another year of experience under their belts.
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