"You can't judge somebody based off of sacks"

[kungfoodude]

I am going to start judging regular people in real life on their sack production.

[philit99]

On 7/16/2021 at 12:07 PM, BrianS said:

As a team last year, our pass rush win rate was pretty good at 12th overall.  Where we struggled was with run stop win rate, where we were 28th.  Yikes!  We have GOT to learn how to stop the run.

Offensively, also probably what you would expect.  We were 23rd in pass block win rate, but 7th in run block win rate.  Looking at that run block win rate, it occurs to me that Mike Davis may not have been as good as we thought.  We were actually setting him up pretty well.  If we can figure out how to pass block, we're going to be dangerous.

While I concur about stopping the run, putting our defense in 3-3 stack did not help. We also, had poor tackling skills at the linebacker and corner position (looking at you Donte Jackson). If we improved at the LB level, and we give our Dline less space to defend, I suspect our run D will improve drastically.

[top dawg]

Definitely some good food for thought! 

I'd think that the percentage of snaps played would put things in focus a little more pertaining to these numbers.

[Icege]

18 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Definitely some good food for thought! 

I'd think that the percentage of snaps played would put things in focus a little more pertaining to these numbers.

Player	Num	Pct
Austin Larkin	127	12%
Marquis Haynes	390	37%
Efe Obada	415	39%
Derrick Brown	742	70%
Zach Kerr	390	37%
Bravvion Roy	419	40%
Shaq Thompson	1031	97%
Tahir Whitehead	398	38%
Jermaine Carter Jr.	284	27%
Jeremy Chinn	967	91%
Sam Franklin	248	23%
Morgan Fox	403	39%
DaQuan Jones	706	63%
Denzel Perryman	318	31%
Frankie Luvu	258	23%
Haason Reddick	874	79%
Frank Herron	94	8%
Caraun Reid	143	13%
Yetur Gross-Matos	377	36%
Stephen Weatherly	358	34%
Brian Burns	750	71%

Snap counts for defenders discussed!

[mc52beast]

Hopefully all the off-season moves equals more than 5 in the win column.

[SBBlue]

20 hours ago, mc52beast said:

Hopefully all the off-season moves equals more than 5 in the win column.

A lot of change and new moving pieces.  Its a good sign they all showed for OTA's.  They are obviously putting in the work this preseason.

[rippadonn]

 Sacks is a measure of success for a DE, not necessarily the team. If you can't hit the target don't take credit for almost hitting the target.

That guy is a fraud. Get that sack bro!

[AU-panther]

People are overthinking what was said.

On game day a sack usually has a bigger impact than a pressure because loss of distance occurs.  Of course there can be an exception, maybe QB gets pressured and throws an interception, that isn't the point of what was said here.

Sacks can be an unstable metric with some luck involved.  DT applies pressure up the middle, QB spins right into the hands of the DE who was actually getting block well by the LT.  The DT actually did a better job.

Pressures tend to be more of a stable metric.  PFF has even found that pressures tend to predict future sacks better than sacks do.  You actually see this some years where a player gets an abnormally high number of sacks and then gets a huge free agency deal off of that but then has less sacks in the future.  Chances are his pressures were probably pretty consistent over those years but his sack total one of those years was a bit of an outlier.