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2 hours ago, mav1234 said:

Tannehill had good seasons previously, and while its true his during Gase numbers were pretty much as bad as Darnold, he'd at least shown something prior.

 

Tannehill did have some seasons  better than others in Miami. 

  Ryan   had only ONE winning qb rec in     SIX     years, 2016 where he had an int% of 3.1%.  

Darnold had only ONE winning qb rec in THREE  years, 2019  where he had an int% of 2.9%

Both of these seasons were with Gase.  

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, bigdavis said:

Tepper has made his money running a hedge fund, during a volatile and roaring bull market.  So some credit for his "high results" owes to the market environment in which he traded.

You have no idea what your talking about.

In fact, Tepper made his most serious coin when the world was melting down and there was real risk the entire banking system would fail --- while everyone else was running for the exits Tepper was buying Bank of America below $3 and Citigroup preferred at under $1...

...there's a real case to be made that Bank of America survived because of Tepper's implicit endorsement (Warren Buffet has a similar effect in certain situations) and the stock turned when news leaked into the marketplace about the monstrous stake in BAC he had taken --- lots of folks then followed his lead BAC shares started moving up.

There's a reason those big brass balls hang on the wall behind his desk...

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14 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I do have a question- Say Sam had the same last 3 years with the Jets at some mid-level college. USC is not in this time-lime, his college years are the jets numbers. 

Where would he get drafted or is UDFA a possibility?  

 

I think you know exactly how this would work out. A mid major QB, with those stats? Yeah

 

Come on, be honest. Tell us how you truly feel?

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45 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

I think you know exactly how this would work out. A mid major QB, with those stats? Yeah

 

Come on, be honest. Tell us how you truly feel?

Even in that scenario, Sam shows up to combine and grabs attention. Just off-season shooting the S.

Me- Im looking forward to being a general in the sunshine gang come 2022, very hopefully Sam is the "guy" and very aware of his last 3 years...

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Tannehill is night and day better at taking care of the football and managing the offense by taking what the defense gives him than he was in Miami. In order for him to achieve that he is not asked to sling it like other quarterbacks because he has the most physical rb in the league and a very stout line. He ranked 21st out of 32 qb's in average passing yards per game. Lower than even three yards and a cloud of dust Teddy Bridgewater at 17. Sam will not have this luxury unfortunately. He will have one of the best backs in the game but a line in flux. He will almost certainly be throwing it more than Ryan T and as much or more than Teddy did. He will have to be as efficient as Tannehill has become.

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1 minute ago, Basbear said:

Even in that scenario, Sam shows up to combine and grabs attention. Just off-season shooting the S.

Me- Im looking forward to being a general in the sunshine gang come 2022, very hopefully Sam is the "guy" and very aware of his last 3 years...

 

I'm sorry, but mid major QBs with iffy stats, are not usually invited to the Combine.

 

So we'll see you next year. I mean, what's wrong with being a General this year? You need this year to see if you want to join next year or not? 

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I mean the whole point of us trading for him was in the hope that a fresh start would kind of be just that? Him restarting his career as basically a 23 year old rookie with some experience to boot. 

I still don't agree with the decision to pass on fields but we at least have to see how he does on the field before outright calling it a failure

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1 hour ago, SOJA said:

I mean the whole point of us trading for him was in the hope that a fresh start would kind of be just that? Him restarting his career as basically a 23 year old rookie with some experience to boot. 

I still don't agree with the decision to pass on fields but we at least have to see how he does on the field before outright calling it a failure

Yep, that's the only thing I'll come back to.  I'm embracing the moves we've made but a combo of a Willie Jackson/Shaq Griffin CB with a fresh new QB in Fields could've been had with the rest of the draft holding as is.  But alas.  We like him and are treating him basically like a second life, rookie 2.0 that they viewed better than Fields and that Mac Jones fella.  

Darnold is here, all we can do is wait and see how he cooks it up with Brady.  

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