Is this accurate?

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

we tried to trade back but couldnt get the value we wanted in return. Taking Horn was the right move at our pick position. One weakness vs another. We chose to go defense over offense. It's one way or the other, no wrong decision, its philisophy at that point.

A competent starting left tackle is light years more valuable than a competent starting corner.  Its not even in the same discussion.  And this is coming from someone that loves Horn but if Slater turns out to be an above average LT then we done fuged up in not picking him for some stupid reason that his arms were a quarter inch too short. 

[RJK]

Cmc had just under 100 yards rushing with backups at both guard spots. Was there pressure? Yea, the Jets only good unit is the Dline and they get paid too. I’m still worried about Pass pro but the oline did fine and got a win. 

[pantherclaw]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

A competent starting left tackle is light years more valuable than a competent starting corner.  Its not even in the same discussion.  And this is coming from someone that loves Horn but if Slater turns out to be an above average LT then we done fuged up in not picking him for some stupid reason that his arms were a quarter inch too short. 

Ya don't reach. 

Period. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, pantherclaw said:

Ya don't reach. 

Period. 

How the fug is that reaching?

[onmyown]

Yea I mean you go all defense in the draft one year after having the one of the worst oline…then you draft one (and I mean one as in high draft investment (well as high as Grier went), hard to count where you don’t even have the other [Brown] active on game day). After having a below average ranked oline (18), thanks to 7 games or whatever from Okung. Otherwise easily bottom third of NFL.

Looking at decent NFL olineman the best ones really do go long before the half of the third round.

You can’t pay busts more money and expect them to do well. And big men do not heal. They just don’t. Proven over and over again.

Paradis gone next year. Every year I say this is the year the Panthers invest in oline but seriously 2022 literally has to be that year. Maybe Brown and Christianson will step up and the plan will come into place.

Edited September 13, 2021 by onmyown

[KillerKat]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

A competent starting left tackle is light years more valuable than a competent starting corner.  Its not even in the same discussion.  And this is coming from someone that loves Horn but if Slater turns out to be an above average LT then we done fuged up in not picking him for some stupid reason that his arms were a quarter inch too short. 

Incorrect.

Imagine our CB depth now without Horn. In a passing league, especially in our division, it's good to have a shut down corner on your team. 

[onmyown]

8 minutes ago, RJK said:

Cmc had just under 100 yards rushing with backups at both guard spots. Was there pressure? Yea, the Jets only good unit is the Dline and they get paid too. I’m still worried about Pass pro but the oline did fine and got a win. 

As with last year, you will once again see them get exploited by the Saints. A good team …or really even an average team won’t allow what we saw on Sunday with backup olineman. Of course all our olineman are backups except Moton.

Edited September 13, 2021 by onmyown

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, KillerKat said:

Incorrect.

Imagine our CB depth now without Horn. In a passing league, especially in our division, it's good to have a shut down corner on your team. 

A competent LT is not even in the same stratosphere in value as a competent corner.  You are drunk to even argue as such.  A left tackle is the second most important position in football. 

[pantherclaw]

6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

How the fug is that reaching?

It was clearly stated that they tried trading back, and couldn't get the value they wanted.  

You don't sit there and draft him at 8 with the best defensive player staring you in the face. 

 

[pantherclaw]

This is the difference with fans, they don't care how reality is.  They just want their players at the positions they want, regardless of the value and opportunities.  

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, pantherclaw said:

It was clearly stated that they tried trading back, and couldn't get the value they wanted.  

You don't sit there and draft him at 8 with the best defensive player staring you in the face. 

 

again a competent LT is 20x more valuable than a competent corner

 

 

[SmokinwithWilly]

7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

again a competent LT is 20x more valuable than a competent corner

 

 

It's is very important, but with our current guards and center, he could pancake the DE on every play and it wouldn't matter. I liked Slater FWIW. I was hoping we could have traded down to 11 or 12 and still got him. 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

It's is very important, but with our current guards and center, he could pancake the DE on every play and it wouldn't matter. I liked Slater FWIW. I was hoping we could have traded down to 11 or 12 and still got him. 

That doesn't change the argument 

[1of10Charnatives]

51 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Nobody deliberately signs bad players.

Nobody deliberately signs players they THINK are bad. But if a players objective track record and performance to date does little to suggest they are anything but, and then they show up and perform as others expected but not as you hoped, isn't that pretty much on you?