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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If Tepper was losing money three years straight to start out with in the hedge fund world with the results looking progressively worse he would've been out on his ass.

You should go look at his track record, he had some years with massive losses...

...that said, if some asses aren't put on the street asap I will be very surprised. 

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You should go look at his track record, he had some years with massive losses...

...that said, if some asses aren't put on the street asap I will be very surprised. 

Some years. Everyone takes some L's, but three years straight with each year looking progressively worse?

The guy has been a failure as an NFL owner so far. No other way to slice it.

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If Tepper would come out and say something like, "This is a re-building process, and we are in year two of a four-year plan", I might be more patient. But he hasn't demonstrated that there is a master plan in place. Some of the early-season moves made it seem like the Panthers wanted to win now, but without an offensive line and realistically good quarterback, did any of us really think so? Taking Darnold was a gamble. Don't investment people live on gambles? It was a bad one. Bringing in Cam was desperate. Everyone knew it. Cam cannot hide the fact that the offensive line needs a lot of work. Until there's a good O-line and a solid QB, we're going to struggle.

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36 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

There is absolutely no patience on this forum. What owner can buy a team with aging/little talent and immediately be super bowl contenders within two years? What coach can win without a franchise QB in his second year? 

Well he could start with getting a nfl seasoned coach, draft a QB and LT when given an opportunity  in the first two years and build on it 

I would state the instead ‘he did x, y, z ‘ but we know what he did 

there is a danger on thinking one is smarter than anyone else and that’s what happened here 

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16 minutes ago, HDThoreau said:

If Tepper would come out and say something like, "This is a re-building process, and we are in year two of a four-year plan", I might be more patient. But he hasn't demonstrated that there is a master plan in place. Some of the early-season moves made it seem like the Panthers wanted to win now, but without an offensive line and realistically good quarterback, did any of us really think so? Taking Darnold was a gamble. Don't investment people live on gambles? It was a bad one. Bringing in Cam was desperate. Everyone knew it. Cam cannot hide the fact that the offensive line needs a lot of work. Until there's a good O-line and a solid QB, we're going to struggle.

How are we supposed to be rebuilding when we've traded damn near our entire draft next year? 

 

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54 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

There is absolutely no patience on this forum. What owner can buy a team with aging/little talent and immediately be super bowl contenders within two years? What coach can win without a franchise QB in his second year? 

If you don’t have a franchise QB you don’t go out and fire the one you have, replace him with a guy who has a noodle for an arm, then fire that guy and trade for a Jets reject, then sign the guy you fired again. The bungling of the QB situation has been miserable.

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49 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Some years. Everyone takes some L's, but three years straight with each year looking progressively worse?

The guy has been a failure as an NFL owner so far. No other way to slice it.

Year-1 doesn't count -- by the time he took ownership the die had already been cast.  

Year-2 (effectively yr-1) was covid -- kinda hard to draw conclusions or assign blame for a brand new staff/regime given the circumstances.

Year-3 = Year-1.  

You need to exercise some patience...

...over the course of a market-cycle The Appaloosa Model will prevail, count on it 😎

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4 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Year-1 doesn't count -- by the time he took ownership the die had already been cast.  

Year-2 (effectively yr-1) was covid -- kinda hard to draw conclusions or assign blame for a brand new staff/regime given the circumstances.

Year-3 = Year-1.  

You need to exercise some patience...

...over the course of a market-cycle The Appaloosa Model will prevail, count on it 😎

You probably got mad we fired Seifert too.

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