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The Blunders of Matt Rhule

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Let's be real, when Tepper hired him, he gave him the keys.  Hurney being GM didn't matter.  Fit was brought in to help corral things.  Rhule was also handed a good foundation for a team with Brian Burns, a healthy CMC, DJ Moore, Shaq, Luke (Retired/but wanted in on the staff).  Basically, he had some nice pieces to walk into.

Since, it has been blunder after blunder of someone learning on the job:

  • Hires a OC w/ basically zero coordinator experience and was even more green than Rhule
  • Hires a bunch of yes men he's worked with in college.  Strangely leaned more heavily to his Temple days than Baylor.  
  • Unceremoniously releases Cam after praising him publicly.  Can still argue this was a move we needed to make but handled poorly
  • Drafts Derrick Brown.  I wouldn't classify a bust but he does not look worthy of that pick when we had the best OT in forever at our disposal. Puke.  He's playing no different than plenty of DTs taken from rounds 1-3 in the past few years.
  • Notable QBs we've passed on: Gardner Minshew, Jalen Hurts, Mac Jones, Justin Fields, the list goes on.  I think we could've traded up for Herbert too if we wanted.
  • Let a few perfectly fine backup QBs in Heinecke & Kyle Allen go that were cheap as hell so we could roll with his old QB from college in the XFL
  • Overpaid for Teddy Bridgewater hoping he and the OC were destined for great things, and bailed faster than hell
  • For some reason decided to reclaim Sam Darnold after failing to land Stafford and Watson. 
  • Has a weird pattern of just getting worse the more time goes by
  • Not to mention this whole Christensen debacle after they claimed they drafted him BECAUSE THEY COULD SEE TACKLE POTENTIAL
  • Today did a most bewildering thing in benching the starter twice in a single game.  His in game decisions are now getting straight up boo'd by the fans

*feel free to add, don't want to waste anymore breathe.

I defended him.  Even got into some lively debates here claiming he wasn't showing nepotism and just bringing in a few of his guys, a few players.  I was wrong.  He needs to go.  They just keep making the most bewildering moves.  It's like he's wanted to create this nice little bubble for him and his buddies (along with PJ) to just cash in.  

His car salesman-y pitches are falling flat, he exhibits zero nuance to game planning, horrible feel for the game.  

This college coach experiment has failed and he needs to go.  David Tepper, please listen to your fans.  Cut it loose before it makes things worse.

 

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Just now, mc52beast said:

Can someone tell me who he benched twice? I can’t freaking believe this.

Cam Newton.  Today.  Benched him for PJ.  PJ struts in and throws a pick.  Comes out of the half, puts Cam back out there only to bench again with fans booing the move.  (Correct if I'm wrong here)

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I'll provide a few Devil's advocate responses to keep the evaluation fair.  But some of these points can't be dismissed.

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  • Hires a OC w/ basically zero coordinator experience and was even more green than Rhule

         YEAH, THIS ONE WAS A HUGE MISTAKE.  BRADY NEVER CALLED PLAYS BEFORE 

  • Hires a bunch of yes men he's worked with in college.  Strangely leaned more heavily to his Temple days than Baylor.  

         SNOW HAS DONE PRETTY WELL.  IT'S GOOD TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR TEAM

  • Unceremoniously releases Cam after praising him publicly.  Can still argue this was a move we needed to make but handled poorly

         HAD TO BE DONE DUE TO CAM'S SALARY DEMANDS.  STILL IT WAS POORLY HANDLED

  • Drafts Derrick Brown.  I wouldn't classify a bust but he does not look worthy of that pick when we had the best OT in forever at our disposal. Puke.  He's playing no different than plenty of DTs taken from rounds 1-3 in the past few years.

        BUILDING FROM THE LINES OUT IS A GOOD STRATEGY.  BROWN WAS SEC DEF POY.

  • Notable QBs we've passed on: Gardner Minshew, Jalen Hurts, Mac Jones, Justin Fields, the list goes on.  I think we could've traded up for Herbert too if we wanted.

        PROBABLY WANTED TO GO LT BUT PENEI SEWELL GOT TAKEN #7

         SLATER WAS AVAILABLE AT #8 BUT HAS SHORT ARMS.  ANALYTICS DUMB

         SLATER CURRENTLY IN THE OROY DISCUSSION.  

  • Overpaid for Teddy Bridgewater hoping he and the OC were destined for great things, and bailed faster than hell

        BRIDGEWATER IS WHAT HE IS.  FOR A BRIDGE QB, SHOULD HAVE BEEN FINE

          MISTAKE WAS DUMPING HIM SO FAST FOR A LOTTERY TICKET IN DARNOLD 

  • For some reason decided to reclaim Sam Darnold after failing to land Stafford and Watson. 

        TOOK A RISK ON A GOOD PEDIGREE RECLAMATION PROJECT AND FAILED.  

  • Has a weird pattern of just getting worse the more time goes by

        OTHER COACHES GET TAPE ON HIM AND HE DOESN'T ADJUST.   JUST THE SAME STUFF

  • Not to mention this whole Christensen debacle after they claimed they drafted him BECAUSE THEY COULD SEE TACKLE POTENTIAL

        PICK G OR LT AND LET THE KID LEARN THERE.  THE MOVEMENT HURTS HIS DEVELOPMENT

  • Today did a most bewildering thing in benching the starter twice in a single game.  His in game decisions are now getting straight up boo'd by the fans

       MAJOR SNAFU - THIS IS NOT DONE IN THE NFL.  I GUESS RHULE NEVER GOT THAT MEMO

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Just now, chknwing said:

I think this team could be in a very good position if they just kept cam.  

Yup. We may not have been playoff bound but could have rolled with Cam and Kyle Allen (or Heineke) until we found our next guy. And saved half of next years draft picks. The QB moves were a blunder at every turn. They’re continuously making the wrong move and then make a new panicky one to help make up for it. 
 

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14 minutes ago, BlitzMonster said:

I'll provide a few Devil's advocate responses to keep the evaluation fair.  But some of these points can't be dismissed.

*******************************

  • Hires a OC w/ basically zero coordinator experience and was even more green than Rhule

         YEAH, THIS ONE WAS A HUGE MISTAKE.  BRADY NEVER CALLED PLAYS BEFORE 

  • Hires a bunch of yes men he's worked with in college.  Strangely leaned more heavily to his Temple days than Baylor.  

         SNOW HAS DONE PRETTY WELL.  IT'S GOOD TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR TEAM

  • Unceremoniously releases Cam after praising him publicly.  Can still argue this was a move we needed to make but handled poorly

         HAD TO BE DONE DUE TO CAM'S SALARY DEMANDS.  STILL IT WAS POORLY HANDLED

  • Drafts Derrick Brown.  I wouldn't classify a bust but he does not look worthy of that pick when we had the best OT in forever at our disposal. Puke.  He's playing no different than plenty of DTs taken from rounds 1-3 in the past few years.

        BUILDING FROM THE LINES OUT IS A GOOD STRATEGY.  BROWN WAS SEC DEF POY.

  • Notable QBs we've passed on: Gardner Minshew, Jalen Hurts, Mac Jones, Justin Fields, the list goes on.  I think we could've traded up for Herbert too if we wanted.

        PROBABLY WANTED TO GO LT BUT PENEI SEWELL GOT TAKEN #7

         SLATER WAS AVAILABLE AT #8 BUT HAS SHORT ARMS.  ANALYTICS DUMB

         SLATER CURRENTLY IN THE OROY DISCUSSION.  

  • Overpaid for Teddy Bridgewater hoping he and the OC were destined for great things, and bailed faster than hell

        BRIDGEWATER IS WHAT HE IS.  FOR A BRIDGE QB, SHOULD HAVE BEEN FINE

          MISTAKE WAS DUMPING HIM SO FAST FOR A LOTTERY TICKET IN DARNOLD 

  • For some reason decided to reclaim Sam Darnold after failing to land Stafford and Watson. 

        TOOK A RISK ON A GOOD PEDIGREE RECLAMATION PROJECT AND FAILED.  

  • Has a weird pattern of just getting worse the more time goes by

        OTHER COACHES GET TAPE ON HIM AND HE DOESN'T ADJUST.   JUST THE SAME STUFF

  • Not to mention this whole Christensen debacle after they claimed they drafted him BECAUSE THEY COULD SEE TACKLE POTENTIAL

        PICK G OR LT AND LET THE KID LEARN THERE.  THE MOVEMENT HURTS HIS DEVELOPMENT

  • Today did a most bewildering thing in benching the starter twice in a single game.  His in game decisions are now getting straight up boo'd by the fans

       MAJOR SNAFU - THIS IS NOT DONE IN THE NFL.  I GUESS RHULE NEVER GOT THAT MEMO

Stopping at the first point because I see this slung around here a lot and nowhere else… Brady did call plays at LSU. They were all the 5-wide and any empty sets. So he called about 1/3 of the plays for LSU the year he was there. Plus it was his offense that was installed. 

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4 minutes ago, Varking said:

Stopping at the first point because I see this slung around here a lot and nowhere else… Brady did call plays at LSU. They were all the 5-wide and any empty sets. So he called about 1/3 of the plays for LSU the year he was there. Plus it was his offense that was installed. 

I knew they used his offense but didn't know Brady was involved in any game play calling.  

Still the point is valid.  Brady was not even the LSU OC.  He was very inexperienced to take on an NFL OC role.  

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