Hasson Reddick… what are you going to offer him?

[Panthercougar68]

7 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Burns is not a FA like Reddick will be, Chris Mortenson 

I think he’s looking at it from a “it’s gonna be expensive to keep both” lens.

[PNW_PantherMan]

3 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Let him walk and re-sign Brian Burns long term instead 

Curious why you feel that way.  I don't think Burns is a bad player, but to me Reddick is basically Brian Burns that hits guys instead of over pursuing them.

[Basbear]

2 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Speaking of Willis is it possible for us to get Patrick Willis out of retirement 

I seen his retirement presser, said his toe would not allow him to continue playing. Expressed his dying want to play, but brought up his toe would not allow NFL games. 

So cyborg toe maybe the way.....getting Luke maybe easily but seems he didnt have even Willis's want to play. Luke enjoys fishing and chilli while the panthers had 30 million in dead cap, thanks bro!

[Cdparr7]

20 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

He is a game changer

He’s young enough to build around
 

 he’s proven that last year with Arizona wasn’t an anomaly

 

I put him in a league with Judon (4 years 54 million) and Hendrickson (4 years 60 million) 

 

given the salary cap jump, you’re likely looking at 4 years $68 million to get this deal done…. Would you do it?

It depends on the scheme. 3-4 he’s worth it. 4-3 we are better on spending money on a 4-3 DE type and a 4-3 LB group. 

[Scott12345]

9 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Let him walk and re-sign Brian Burns long term instead 

No no….burns should be trade bait…no way I give him a big money long term contract

[Tommy Jone]

I'd offer what it takes to keep him. He is our best pass rusher. 

[Basbear]

I think the tag is in play.

Unlike Burns, reddick is super physical. More than not Reddick will jar the OT thats trying to stop/block him.(If burns speed fails, its over for him). He can cover very well for a edge, he has a rare toolbox for sure. 

Got to keep him, he has been the best defender on the team. Huge loss if he exits. 

Edited December 15, 2021 by Basbear

[jayboogieman]

18 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

Double digit sack guys under 26 don’t grow on trees

I'd still let him go since I wouldn't pay big money to a smaller guy that can just rush the passer.

[jayboogieman]

19 minutes ago, ncstatekwi said:

True story...we need oline...but it would be nice to keep him!

Can't pay everybody though and the Oline has needed heavy investment for a very long time.

[Basbear]

If reddick played for the pats, he could reach 20 sacks.

Again you can not lose him, tag him.

Another issue is I think he counts for around 7 million in dead cap space, no matter if plays for the panthers or not.

Big brain finesser got him on 5 year deal, with 4 voided years that all hit 2022.

 

[Basbear]

31 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Nothing. I let him go so I can use the money to go after better free agent Olinemen.

The most over-paid group in free agencay is OL. BY FAR.

ALL teams need OL bodies, mainly cause college suck for developing decent OL. So when a OL hits the market, 14 teams fight over him and drive the price to mars.....

[jayboogieman]

1 minute ago, Basbear said:

The most over-paid group in free agencay is OL. BY FAR.

ALL teams need OL bodies, mainly cause college suck for developing decent OL. So when a OL hits the market, 14 teams fight over him and drive the price to mars.....

Teams compete for any free agent worth a thing.

As much as a decent OLine is needed to make an offense work, starter caliber guys should be paid well. Now, doing what the Panthers did last offseason and overpaying Elf and Erving was dumb. They had been backups at best with injury issues. That was a mistake.

One final thought on free agents. Any free agent worth a thing will be an overpay for the Panthers due to how bad they have been in recent years.

[Basbear]

5 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Teams compete for any free agent worth a thing.

As much as a decent OLine is needed to make an offense work, starter caliber guys should be paid well. Now, doing what the Panthers did last offseason and overpaying Elf and Erving was dumb. They had been backups at best with injury issues. That was a mistake.

One final thought on free agents. Any free agent worth a thing will be an overpay for the Panthers due to how bad they have been in recent years.

Happens to OL the most, just the facts. Go look at the early contract signed over the last few years. They are filled with massive OL over-pays, cause thats what the market is. Last year a philly backup swing tackle got 5 years 55 millions.....I dont think he played over a few snaps the year before. Plenty more. I know the Center market got reset over and over by players that were in the mid-pack far as rankings. Any agent worth his salt would be wise to get his OL clients to the free agent market........then sit back and count the millions. 

Edited December 15, 2021 by Basbear

[TheSpecialJuan]

43 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Curious why you feel that way.  I don't think Burns is a bad player, but to me Reddick is basically Brian Burns that hits guys instead of over pursuing them.

Brian is 4 years younger and has massive upside as a DE