Could this team beat the 2001 or 2010 teams?

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Depends if Matt Moore or Jimmy Clausen is starting for the 2010 team. Matt Moore would blow this team out, Jimmy would be closer but J-Stew and D-Will would run all over this team.

[PNW_PantherMan]

I watched every game of the 2001 season and that team was in most games.  Not the most talented bunch, and coached by a reanimated corpse, but they played hard just about every week.

2010 vs this year is a push for me.

[Ricky Spanish]

Just a heads up, there's a website called whatifsports.com that let's you run these kinds of simulations. 

2021's panthers weren't available but 2020's were.

They lost to the 2010 panthers:

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Just a heads up, there's a website called whatifsports.com that let's you run these kinds of simulations. 

2021's panthers weren't available but 2020's were.

They lost to the 2010 panthers:

How the fug did we score 2 TDs  

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Carl Spackler said:

Rhule and Fitterer can’t draft. They had all those picks and not one single impact player came out of the whole thing. Got a decent RB2 and a CB2 who couldn’t stay on the field, plus a slew of XFL-caliber players. 

The 2021 draft will go down as one of the two or three worst in franchise history — basically 2011, if there was no Cam

Can't draft or can't develop? It's hard to definitively know.

[KillerKat]

3 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Depends if Matt Moore or Jimmy Clausen is starting for the 2010 team. Matt Moore would blow this team out, Jimmy would be closer but J-Stew and D-Will would run all over this team.

Before Matt got hurt that year, he was promising. Fox also started him before he was 100% which further hurt his progress. Healthy Matt Moore would kill us. He had 8 Tds and 1 int in his last 5 games in 2009. A couple of those games with 3 Tds and 0 ints against the Brett Favre lead Vikings and the Giants.

[Cdparr7]

3 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Before Matt got hurt that year, he was promising. Fox also started him before he was 100% which further hurt his progress. Healthy Matt Moore would kill us. He had 8 Tds and 1 int in his last 5 games in 2009. A couple of those games with 3 Tds and 0 ints against the Brett Favre lead Vikings and the Giants.

Yeah if Matt hadn’t gotten hurt we were probably a 5-7 win team. He played great against SF and then went down.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

13 minutes ago, ellis said:

Great data from this post. 

So, let’s dig deeper: 

Cross posting from the EPA thread; this is literally the worst stretch of Panthers football ever. Yes, 2010 and 2001 would beat the 2021 team

[KillerKat]

5 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Cross posting from the EPA thread; this is literally the worst stretch of Panthers football ever. Yes, 2010 and 2001 would beat the 2021 team

Is Ellis on the huddle?  Love data stuff.

Edited December 28, 2021 by KillerKat

[X-Clown]

I’d argue that 2010 was the worst, fox was completely checked out since he was a lame duck and so was the rest of the team. Brian St. Pierre got a start and there was a legit portion of the fan base who wanted to see Armanti Edwards get a game at QB.

[Carl Spackler]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Can't draft or can't develop? It's hard to definitively know.

A mixture of both. Can’t develop the only good pick in two years. 

[SteveSmithTD89]

Lot of revisionist history with just how bad Jimmy Clausen was.. 3 TDs in 13 games. And our defense? 28th in points allowed. 

That defense couldn't stop this years team. Nick Hayden, Tyler Brayton, Dan Connor, Richard Marshall, Charles Godfrey and Sherrod Martin are far and away inferior to our team now.

Matt Moore, Stewart and Smitty may cook our present defense tho.

And Fox>>>>Rhule

[Shotgun]

Rhule would get outcoached by any previous Panthers coach.

[kungfoodude]

34 minutes ago, SteveSmithTD89 said:

Lot of revisionist history with just how bad Jimmy Clausen was.. 3 TDs in 13 games. And our defense? 28th in points allowed. 

That defense couldn't stop this years team. Nick Hayden, Tyler Brayton, Dan Connor, Richard Marshall, Charles Godfrey and Sherrod Martin are far and away inferior to our team now.

Matt Moore, Stewart and Smitty may cook our present defense tho.

And Fox>>>>Rhule

You did selectively take away the defenders that were far, far better than our current ones.