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Albert Breer: Baker Mayfield would be redundant to Sam Darnold and the Browns are pushing more for a trade than the Panthers are

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What's the end goal with getting Baker or Jimmy G? They are not going to get us where we ultimately want to go, and he would keep us out of contention for Stroud/Young. At least with Darnold you are more likely to tank (and you could argue he has more upside than Baker/Jimmy - even though we are very likely beyond repair). 

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1 hour ago, NCTHFL0567 said:

Baker has also had like 4 different OC's. Do we just ignore that? That can hinder a QB in a heartbeat. 

On a team with 5 pro-bowlers including Nick Chubb and 2, that is TWO, OL.  Not to mention Odell Beckham until mid November.  What the Browns finally figured out was that it wasn't the OC's, it was Baker.

Baker   >   Sam
 

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1 hour ago, NCTHFL0567 said:

Baker has also had like 4 different OC's. Do we just ignore that? That can hinder a QB in a heartbeat. 

Sounds like the Adam Gase thing with Darnold. Everyone else was to blame. Not the right fit not the right coach not the right surroundings. I can't believe some of you guys don't see the same story unfolding.

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

Sounds like the Adam Gase thing with Darnold. Everyone else was to blame. Not the right fit not the right coach not the right surroundings. I can't believe some of you guys don't see the same story unfolding.

Sam sucks.  We need to move on.

That said, Sam didn't have 2 probowl offensive linemen, probowl RB Nick Chubb and Odell Beckham with the jets or us.

Two totally different situations.

Baker may be better than Sam, but not by much.  They are the same tier QB.  Baker is just the whiny bitch version of Sam.

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1 minute ago, poundaway said:

Sam sucks.  We need to move on.

That said, Sam didn't have 2 probowl offensive linemen, probowl RB Nick Chubb and Odell Beckham with the jets or us.

Two totally different situations.

Baker may be better than Sam, but not by much.  They are the same tier QB.  Baker is just the whiny bitch version of Sam.

Can't disagree with any of this. But the biggest question for Baker isn't how much better he is than Darnold. It's the matter of is he a bad teammate and a bad leader of men. So far we have our answer and that means we should not give up anything of value for him.

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2 hours ago, NCTHFL0567 said:

Baker has also had like 4 different OC's. Do we just ignore that? That can hinder a QB in a heartbeat. 

It's been stable for the past two seasons under Stefanski and Alex Van Pelt, yet Mayfield still went off the rails.

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