Greg Little....Miami

[Carl Spackler]

8 hours ago, Gerry Green said:

 

116 snaps, 0 penalties, 1 sack allowed. Yet only has a 48.5 grade. Still must be atrocious in the running game.

 

And Fitt got something for him. Yeah Fitt.

Scott Fitterer simply does not lose trades.

Except for every trade he makes.

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, Snake said:

1st round tackles usually don't get it day one unless they are HOF. Sometimes it takes years and position changes. Hell we found gold in the White Buffalo and he went on to be terrible for Jax. 

Yeah, but the White Buffalo didn't take "years" to pay off.

[Ivan The Awesome]

13 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Good for him. Seriously. Sometimes a guy just needs a change of scenery and a different system or a position change.

Unless you are Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield. 

[LinvilleGorge]

4 hours ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

Unless you are Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield. 

We aren't a "get right" landing spot. Not with this coaching staff and overall environment. More like a "cash your last checks and invest smartly" type of landing spot because your career wasn't over before it is now.

 

[Gerry Green]

12 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

If you have a 1st round grade on a tackle, he better get it from day 1. He should have been a day 3 pick but Marty Hurney's gut and all...

 

If you have a 1st round grade on any player. All you are doing is HOPING he gets it. Very few draft picks are sure things. Especially QB and LT. And saying he SHOULDA been a day 3 pick is just hindsight. He graded better than that.

[Snake]

8 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Yeah, but the White Buffalo didn't take "years" to pay off.

And water is wet. That has nothing to do with my point. Point is sometimes you can be a entirely different player with a change in teams. 

[Snake]

10 hours ago, onmyown said:

Norwell wasn’t terrible in Jax, he just wasn’t elite like he was here. He was also surrounded by utter trash and worse coaching but he was still average at worst for them, when he wasn’t injured.

Hell, Jaguars Notwell would instantly be our best olineman outside of Moton…not that it’s saying much.

But I do agree tackles usually take 2 yearish…not sure what fantasy maddden land people live in saying they contribute day 1. It’s unbelievable rare even for HOFamer.

Which reminds us all how Rhule downgraded Slater defying all odds and doing just that lmao… Rhule is such a fuging clown.

To be fair we have better tackles now than back then. Our middle though was very good those years with Norwell, Kalil, and Turner. We just paid the Wrong guard. Norwell would have still been elite in our system but Turner was always avg to above avg. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

19 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

If you have a 1st round grade on any player. All you are doing is HOPING he gets it. Very few draft picks are sure things. Especially QB and LT. And saying he SHOULDA been a day 3 pick is just hindsight. He graded better than that.

Any first round graded player should not have to be told they need to work to make it in the NFL. You can tell if someone has the drive to be great. And a lot of us called the overdraft of Little the day it happened. His grade was plummeting after the combine because he was so unprepared and looked so bad. 

[Gerry Green]

10 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

Scott Fitterer simply does not lose trades.

Except for every trade he makes.

 

The fact he got anything for Little is a win. So, in this instance, you are wrong. It's ok to be negative and unhappy. Just maybe keep those comments on the actual truth side of the ledger. Mkay?

 

Speaking in absolutes is like crying wolf. After a while, ppl tune you out.

 

 

[Gerry Green]

14 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Any first round graded player should not have to be told they need to work to make it in the NFL. You can tell if someone has the drive to be great. And a lot of us called the overdraft of Little the day it happened. His grade was plummeting after the combine because he was so unprepared and looked so bad. 

 

Ok then. If your first sentence were true. There would never be a first round flame out. Yet here we are. First rounders still flaming out. 

 

And fans taking credit for bust is a right of passage. We all think we are smarter than the fools in charge. Right?

 

And lastly. Combine warriors are just as plentiful as combine fallers. Using the combine alone to judge someone is fools gold.

[SmokinwithWilly]

27 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

Ok then. If your first sentence were true. There would never be a first round flame out. Yet here we are. First rounders still flaming out. 

 

And fans taking credit for bust is a right of passage. We all think we are smarter than the fools in charge. Right?

 

And lastly. Combine warriors are just as plentiful as combine fallers. Using the combine alone to judge someone is fools gold.

There's a difference between having talent and working hard. There are elite talents that have no work ethic and flame out. JaMarcus Russell. All the talent, lazy as hell. You can work hard as hell and any number of things can take you out. But to not realize you have to work to make it in the NFL, as you claim, is naive and foolish, especially for  someone graded as a top half of the 1st round pick. 

Rounds 2-7, a chicken pecking random names would be right more often than Hurney. We called Little a bust when it happened. The trade was a bust. Using our comp pick on Will Grier, which we all knew was happening a month before the draft, was a bust. Calling someone a bust in hindsight is one thing. Calling it the day is happened or even before the draft is something else. Eric McCoy, a center we needed and top talent at the position was available without having to move up. That was the pick we should have made, and it didn't take a draft genius to know it. Even us lowly, uneducated fans knew it and were saying it before the draft. 

I'm not talking about combine superstars or failures. I'm talking about Greg Little and his workout. This is the tackle you're looking at for the 16th pick. He shows up and runs his drills and it doesn't look like he's even practiced them. That's a huge red flag. The biggest event of his career and he didn't get ready. And if he did and that's the result, even bigger red flag. Sorry, but saying he didn't know he was going to have to work is just lazy. 

[SOJA]

21 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Good for him. Seriously. Sometimes a guy just needs a change of scenery and a different system or a position change.

totally agree. It's not Greg's fault Hurney put all of his eggs in his basket and talked him up to be a legit first round LT

[Gerry Green]

2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

There's a difference between having talent and working hard. There are elite talents that have no work ethic and flame out. JaMarcus Russell. All the talent, lazy as hell. You can work hard as hell and any number of things can take you out. But to not realize you have to work to make it in the NFL, as you claim, is naive and foolish, especially for  someone graded as a top half of the 1st round pick. 

Rounds 2-7, a chicken pecking random names would be right more often than Hurney. We called Little a bust when it happened. The trade was a bust. Using our comp pick on Will Grier, which we all knew was happening a month before the draft, was a bust. Calling someone a bust in hindsight is one thing. Calling it the day is happened or even before the draft is something else. Eric McCoy, a center we needed and top talent at the position was available without having to move up. That was the pick we should have made, and it didn't take a draft genius to know it. Even us lowly, uneducated fans knew it and were saying it before the draft. 

I'm not talking about combine superstars or failures. I'm talking about Greg Little and his workout. This is the tackle you're looking at for the 16th pick. He shows up and runs his drills and it doesn't look like he's even practiced them. That's a huge red flag. The biggest event of his career and he didn't get ready. And if he did and that's the result, even bigger red flag. Sorry, but saying he didn't know he was going to have to work is just lazy. 

 

 

That's a lot to say, "I didn't like the pick." 

 

I have already said all I am willing to say. Little as a Panthers was a bust. Yet, Fitt got something for him. I don't care about all that side crap. It is window dressing. We picked him, it didn't work out, and we traded him. 

 

Stay safe. And Keep Pounding.

[ncsfinest21]

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Edited September 25, 2022 by ncsfinest21