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Ellis Williams Report Card from Sunday


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I really do think it's our personnel, namely our receiving core that hurts the play calling a lot. But that said there's enough talent here that we should be able to move the ball better than we have.

Baker's blown chunks but the Derp hasn't helped him much either.

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3 minutes ago, Rags said:

I really do think it's our personnel, namely our receiving core that hurts the play calling a lot. But that said there's enough talent here that we should be able to move the ball better than we have.

Baker's blown chunks but the Derp hasn't helped him much either.

Teams want to force Baker to throw from the pocket, and McAdoo is forcing him to play in the pocket. The routes aren't helping but the WR's run what McaDookie calls

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A lot of the offensive woes I think can be attributed to McAdoo schemes. If Mayfield is being blitzed that often he needs to scheme quick dump offs to CMC for easy completions. McAdoo games plans as if he has Mahomes or Josh Allen as his QB. I think he is asking too much from Mayfield to carry this offense. 

Give CMC, Shenault, and DJ a chance to make plays with easy completions. 

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45 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

A lot of the offensive woes I think can be attributed to McAdoo schemes. If Mayfield is being blitzed that often he needs to scheme quick dump offs to CMC for easy completions. McAdoo games plans as if he has Mahomes or Josh Allen as his QB. I think he is asking too much from Mayfield to carry this offense. 

Give CMC, Shenault, and DJ a chance to make plays with easy completions. 

It's borderline insane how the Panthers PR is focusing on 3rd down issues when the 1st and 2nd down play calling puts them 3rd and long 80% of the time

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37 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

It's borderline insane how the Panthers PR is focusing on 3rd down issues when the 1st and 2nd down play calling puts them 3rd and long 80% of the time

Agreed, as much success as CMC has been with running the ball, (he is the first RB this season to post back to back 100 yd games), we need to run him more on first and second down to make 3rd down more manageable. Ickey is supposed to be able to block out the sun with his run blocking, play to his strengths and stop asking him to protect Mayfield which he is struggling with right now. 

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4 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Agreed, as much success as CMC has been with running the ball, (he is the first RB this season to post back to back 100 yd games), we need to run him more on first and second down to make 3rd down more manageable. Ickey is supposed to be able to block out the sun with his run blocking, play to his strengths and stop asking him to protect Mayfield which he is struggling with right now. 

Not to mention D'onta Foreman sitting on the bench doing nothing

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“Special Teams”, but ignores Hekker, the guy who pretty much sealed the win with perfect placement on his final kick. In 3 games he’s punted 16 times and half of those have been placed inside the 20 and many of those have been nearly blocked. 
 

Most of points he covered are known by pretty much everyone here. It almost seems as if the Huddle is his source…

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I'm still caught at the point of: "Is this a team that is almost there" or "did we win against a team that is falling apart and play close to two teams that are actually really bad"?

I hope it's the first and that we can get the offense figured out and marry it to what could certainly be a tough defense. If we do that, the Rhule will have proved me wrong. And I'll be mighty happy about it.

Hopefully we'll learn a lot about this team vs. the Cardinals.

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10 hours ago, Rags said:

I really do think it's our personnel, namely our receiving core that hurts the play calling a lot. But that said there's enough talent here that we should be able to move the ball better than we have.

Baker's blown chunks but the Derp hasn't helped him much either.

Darnold didn't have any problems moving the ball down the field with the same receiving corps (even less).

Darnold got locked down near/in the red zone.

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3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Darnold didn't have any problems moving the ball down the field with the same receiving corps (even less).

Darnold got locked down near/in the red zone.

Uh yeah he kinda did do you not remember our nonexistent deep passing game and the results more often than not when Sam threw deep? There can be more than one thing true at once. With Sam and now with Baker we are mostly inept at moving the ball downfield consistently and teams do not fear that otherwise they wouldn't be blitzing our QB more than almost every other quarterback in the league. As inefficient as those QB's have been it's clear our gameplans and playcalls are not helping matters or alleviating these issues much.

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For the sake of clarity I went and took a look at the numbers last year and Sam Darnold finished 28th in avg yards per pass attempt only Roethlisberger Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence were worse and Lawrence was stuck with a complete jackass of a head coach. Right now Baker is sitting at 19th in the same metric. So yeah Darnold was largely terrible at moving the ball downfield and Baker is marginally better with very mediocre playcalling.

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11 minutes ago, frankw said:

 With Sam and now with Baker we are mostly inept at moving the ball downfield consistently and teams do not fear that otherwise they wouldn't be blitzing our QB more than almost every other quarterback in the league.

This is not correct.  The effect of a blitz is to stop the deep pass, and force things quick and short.

Not saying that opponents necessarily fear our deep game, but both Baker and Darnold do have cannons.  I suspect that they can make the deep ball work. 

It's the opposite of Bridgewater.  You play coverage on Bridgewater because his deep arm doesn't scare you at all.  When he has to dink/dunk his way downfield, eventually a mistake will turn the chains against him.

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