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What’s your 2023 QB big board (including Corral)

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DaveThePanther2008 Grand Master

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17 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Passing on QB prospects due to holding out hope for Corral would be flat out insane 

I've said before that Rhule's BS approach in developing Corral would force us to take a QB in this upcoming draft. 

17 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Go back and watch all of his preseason work. He had one good throw which was ok a swing route to a RB. Everything else he basically looked like a fan who won a drawing to play QB that day.

I know you like the guy and hell I had him as my #2 QB in the draft, but damn... he looked flat out awful.

I get your dislike for Matt Corral and he looked lost in his first preseason game but was doing better in the 2nd before his injury.  

But I gotta ask. You really believe he got any real work as a QB for this team in preseason?  How anyone can say he's not an NFL QB based on the ridiculous way Rhule "developed" Corral. 

I'd say any rookie QB would look awful with a bunch of "Foot Locker shoe saleman" blocking for him that he barely got a chance to work with in preseason.

The awful thing was Rhule's childish way he played or I should say lack of play for Corral.

16 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If you're the next staff though, what else do you have to go off of? You're gonna watch his college tape and you're going to watch those preseason snaps.

You're going to narrow your potential HC list substantially if you tie them to Matt Corral. That's why it won't happen.

I assume that if, when, we hire a new coach they will evaluate Corral's tape from college as they would any of these QBs coming out in the draft. No new HC in his right mind would believe Corral looked lost because he doesn't know how to play the position.   That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the new HC felt Corral was just as good as any in the draft and we go elsewhere with the pick.   It's not likely but would be surprised. 

What I do believe, is we'll draft a QB with the intentions of allowing both of them to compete against one another and the best man wins.  They all say draft position means nothing when you get to camp.

It's a benefit that a new Head Coach would love to have.  Two young and potentially good QBs.

 

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The team that beat the Bucs doesn't look like a team picking in the top five.

PJs pocket awareness is soooooo much better than Baker. He actually helps his line with quick decisions and being aware of pressure and moving to the other side of the pocket thus buying time for receivers to get open. He'll side step laterally into a passing lane and fire. I looked back and watched him toy with the pass rush. PJs pocket game is a game within the game. Very impressed with his decision making, calmness, technical prowess.

I believe they'll win a few games. Maybe more than we think.

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15 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I've said before that Rhule's BS approach in developing Corral would force us to take a QB in this upcoming draft. 

I get your dislike for Matt Corral and he looked lost in his first preseason game but was doing better in the 2nd before his injury.  

But I gotta ask. You really believe he got any real work as a QB for this team in preseason?  How anyone can say he's not an NFL QB based on the ridiculous way Rhule "developed" Corral. 

I'd say any rookie QB would look awful with a bunch of "Foot Locker shoe saleman" blocking for him that he barely got a chance to work with in preseason.

The awful thing was Rhule's childish way he played or I should say lack of play for Corral.

I assume that if, when, we hire a new coach they will evaluate Corral's tape from college as they would any of these QBs coming out in the draft. No new HC in his right mind would believe Corral looked lost because he doesn't know how to play the position.   That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the new HC felt Corral was just as good as any in the draft and we go elsewhere with the pick.   It's not likely but would be surprised. 

What I do believe, is we'll draft a QB with the intentions of allowing both of them to compete against one another and the best man wins.  They all say draft position means nothing when you get to camp.

It's a benefit that a new Head Coach would love to have.  Two young and potentially good QBs.

 

I don't dislike Corral. He was actually my #2 QB in the draft. I just can't sugarcoat how truly terrible he looked.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't dislike Corral. He was actually my #2 QB in the draft. I just can't sugarcoat how truly terrible he looked.

I think you would have to agree though that the damn near microscopic number of reps he got in camp would have made it difficult for just about anybody to look good.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I think you would have to agree though that the damn near microscopic number of reps he got in camp would have made it difficult for just about anybody to look good.

Thanks, you beat me to it.  

I don't doubt we'll draft a QB but that's all I will agree to.  I think Corral will have a TRUE QB competition if we do. 

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25 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I've said before that Rhule's BS approach in developing Corral would force us to take a QB in this upcoming draft. 

I get your dislike for Matt Corral and he looked lost in his first preseason game but was doing better in the 2nd before his injury.  

But I gotta ask. You really believe he got any real work as a QB for this team in preseason?  How anyone can say he's not an NFL QB based on the ridiculous way Rhule "developed" Corral. 

I'd say any rookie QB would look awful with a bunch of "Foot Locker shoe saleman" blocking for him that he barely got a chance to work with in preseason.

The awful thing was Rhule's childish way he played or I should say lack of play for Corral.

I assume that if, when, we hire a new coach they will evaluate Corral's tape from college as they would any of these QBs coming out in the draft. No new HC in his right mind would believe Corral looked lost because he doesn't know how to play the position.   That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the new HC felt Corral was just as good as any in the draft and we go elsewhere with the pick.   It's not likely but would be surprised. 

What I do believe, is we'll draft a QB with the intentions of allowing both of them to compete against one another and the best man wins.  They all say draft position means nothing when you get to camp.

It's a benefit that a new Head Coach would love to have.  Two young and potentially good QBs.

 

1. No coach is going to watch tape of MC and decide that is who they will roll with since he cannot practice until Aug. 

2. There will be no competition.  The new staff will sign a vet when free agency opens and then draft a guy in April.  Both of those dudes will be light years ahead of MC when he can actually practice fully.  There are only so many reps to divide up and I doubt they will take away crucial reps from the rookie just in the name of "competition".  Its sucks for MC but that is just how it is

 

3. Draft position is the world when you pick a qb in the top of the first.  Dont kid yourself

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Stat that some would probably want to factor into the discussion...

 

Wait a minute Young has had MORE WRs  wide open downfield than Stroud? I keep hearing from team Young that Stroud’s team is more loaded and his WRs are more open? Interesting stat here…

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Just now, ForJimmy said:

Also Corral is a 3rd round injured QB. He will probably get treated like one. Would we pass on a top QB because we didn’t see Will Grier play his rookie year??

I like corral.  Ive said many times rhule has fuged this kid, however the love this dude is getting on here is insane.  He was dropping like a rock in the draft and is now injured.  The odds were astronomical for him to make an impact as it was before he got injured.  Now they are basically nonexistent.    At absolute best he is starting the season qb3 behind a vet and a highly drafted rookie.  At best.  No way in hell corral is going to be taking any valuable reps from them especially seeing how he is going to miss mini camps etc until Aug.  Even then we dont know how well he will play coming off a notoriously fickle injury. 

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19 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

1. No coach is going to watch tape of MC and decide that is who they will roll with since he cannot practice until Aug. 

2. There will be no competition.  The new staff will sign a vet when free agency opens and then draft a guy in April.  Both of those dudes will be light years ahead of MC when he can actually practice fully.  There are only so many reps to divide up and I doubt they will take away crucial reps from the rookie just in the name of "competition".  Its sucks for MC but that is just how it is

 

3. Draft position is the world when you pick a qb in the top of the first.  Dont kid yourself

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