Rams Offering Two (Future) Firsts for Burns

[ImaginaryKev]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

We don't know that.  This could be his prime.  This could be his peak. 

I'd argue every Panther great DE entered their prime about year 4/5.   Some just maintained longer.  Like Peppers.  Peppers.  Rucker.  Big Money.  

Where they 24 like Burns is or are you just impatient?

[Peppers90 NC]

26 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

LOL you are unintelligent (and exactly the type of f150 I was talking about)

Delete your account

come on, take a break guy.

[Zappy]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

We don't know that.  This could be his prime.  This could be his peak. 

I'd argue every Panther great DE entered their prime about year 4/5.   Some just maintained longer.  Like Peppers.  Peppers.  Rucker.  Big Money.  

No we haven't seen his prime yet .. he'll be only 25 the entirety of 2023 season .. you don't trade freak DE's

[Aussie Tank]

Gonna get TJ Watt money for half the production fantastic 

[ImaginaryKev]

Yall know extending Burns isn't coming out of your paychecks right?

[ImaginaryKev]

If a player is good you have the pay them, that's well known. Give it a rest and stop clamoring for when the wife beater was here sacking QBs for cheap

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, Zappy said:

No we haven't seen his prime yet .. he'll be only 25 the entirety of 2023 season .. you don't trade freak DE's

again, we don't know that.    You can't predict when a player peaks out. 

But all the great Panther DEs to date, reached their playing peaks about year 4/5.   They didn't get more productive after that.  That could be Burns.  It could not. 

Burns isn't a freak DE.  Peppers was a freak DE.  And there is big difference between the two.  You can pay Burns a lot of money.  It won't make him a Peppers caliber freak though. 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

12 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

I respectively disagree with Verge.

That's is their value if you need to cash the assets right now.  But they are an investment.  They will appreciate over time.  And right now we have a little time as this is a lost season. 

That's just not how grading assets in the NFL works. Not when one bad season can get your butt fired as a coach or GM Outside of a small handful of truly entrenched guys.

And how are draft picks going to "appreciate"? We aren't talking about stocks or bonds here.

Scott Fitterer isn't trading one of if not his absolute best roster asset for picks he might never get to make. Nor should he.

[ImaginaryKev]

Just now, CRA said:

again, we don't know that.    You can't predict when a player peaks out. 

But all the great Panther DEs to date, reached their playing peaks about year 4/5.   They didn't get more productive after that.  That could be Burns.  It could not. 

Burns isn't a freak DE.  Peppers was a freak DE.  And there is big difference between the two.  You can pay Burns a lot of money.  It won't make him a Peppers caliber freak though. 

 

Burns combine shows he's an elite athlete and he's gotten better (and bigger) every year he's been in the league. He also came into the league at only 230, he's put on weight since and will continue to do so. You're just being cynical

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Yall know extending Burns isn't coming out of your paychecks right?

It's the same people who whined about paying a QB but were perfectly fine sinking the salary cap in a running back. You can't reason with it.

[ImaginaryKev]

Just now, frankw said:

It's the same people who whined about paying a QB but were perfectly fine sinking the salary cap in a running back. You can't reason with it.

The guy who wants to trade our team captain, star player at a valuable positions wanted us to keep the star RB who hasn't played in years and was the biggest cap hit on the team. 

Yeah, I'm justified for calling that an f150

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Burns combine shows he's an elite athlete and he's gotten better (and bigger) every year he's been in the league. He also came into the league at only 230, he's put on weight since and will continue to do so. You're just being cynical

I don't think it is cynical to say he isn't a Julius Peppers freak DE.   He isn't. 

Jon Beason was a damn good LB.  He wasn't on the same planet as Luke Kuechly. 

DJ Moore is a great WR.  He isn't in the conversation with an 89. 

 

[ImaginaryKev]

Plus the team will have a rookie QB on a rookie contract this time next year anyway, you can absolutely justify spending money on an edge defender. 

[Peppers90 NC]

1 minute ago, ImaginaryKev said:

The guy who wants to trade our team captain, star player at a valuable positions wanted us to keep the star RB who hasn't played in years and was the biggest cap hit on the team. 

Yeah, I'm justified for calling that an f150

what is this f150 garbage you have on repeat? super strange