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How do you feel about CJ Stroud

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This was the game I was waiting for to see if I wanted to jump on the Stroud train... and I will say now..... he is not it. You can't be surrrounded by that much talent and then when it's finally time to play legit competition and you come out with this dud. 

I am sure the coaching staff has a bit to do with it as well, but there were too many snaps where I could count to 3 and Stroud still had the ball in his hands unable to commit to decison on getting the ball out. 

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He's not going to carry a NFL franchise. He was gifted the elite of the elite WR's in college football. OSU QBs cannot understand or comprehend what open in the NFL is. Fields still cannot complete passes. A good fantasy football QB doesn't mean they'll be a good NFL QB. Hard no on Stroud. This class isn't that good overall. They are just like the 2021 class that we were told was "can't miss" by all of the so called "experts."

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Just now, TheCasillas said:

This was the game I was waiting for to see if I wanted to jump on the Stroud train... and I will say now..... he is not it. You can't be surrrounded by that much talent and then when it's finally time to play legit competition and you come out with this dud. 

I am sure the coaching staff has a bit to do with it as well, but there were too many snaps where I could count to 3 and Stroud still had the ball in his hands unable to commit to decison on getting the ball out. 

Bingo - Fields having the same problems in the NFL. Just noted this on a previous post. They cannot overcome the shock of how "open" is defined in the NFL.

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1 minute ago, SuperBowlBound said:

Bingo - Fields having the same problems in the NFL. Just noted this on a previous post. They cannot overcome the shock of how "open" is defined in the NFL.

Fields is progressing every week and he’s a completely different QB than Stroud. They shouldn’t even be compared. 

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1 minute ago, Varking said:

Fields is progressing every week and he’s a completely different QB than Stroud. They shouldn’t even be compared. 

With all due respect - this is NOT progress. He is not progressing as a passer. Watch the game & not just the highlights of him running. He has not progressed one bit. He has one passing game over 200 yards, that's extremely pathetic in today's NFL.image.thumb.png.99fd1a93dd7df39e2d81c02ce9edfe94.png

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2 minutes ago, SuperBowlBound said:

With all due respect - this is NOT progress. He is not progressing as a passer. Watch the game & not just the highlights of him running. He has not progressed one bit. He has one passing game over 200 yards, that's extremely pathetic in today's NFL.image.thumb.png.99fd1a93dd7df39e2d81c02ce9edfe94.png

With all due respect I watch every game and I am not simply just linking his stats while telling somebody else to not look at the stats. He is absolutely progressing as a passer. First 6 games, 4 touchdown passes and 5 interceptions. Last 6 games 9 TDS passing and 3 INTs. Every game during the last 6 over 60% completions. Or maybe you just don’t understand what the word progress means? 

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1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

not as a passer.... he still has the same issues he had last year.... lets not forget the last time Fields dropped back for a pass it was an interception...

After separating his shoulder two plays earlier and running the ball on the play before the interception THAT HIT HIS RB IN THE HANDS. 

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5 minutes ago, SuperBowlBound said:

Bingo - Fields having the same problems in the NFL. Just noted this on a previous post. They cannot overcome the shock of how "open" is defined in the NFL.

This is a common problem for many college QBs due to offensive scheming and modern playcalling in college.  They aren't even being given the chance to make anticipation throws and they also are being taught into being risk-averse.  Fitzpatrick had a phenomenal take on this some weeks back on PMT.  They're focused on their stats, not making INTs, and not pushing the ball.

They are essentially trained for being risk averse and modern coaching is causing them to lack ability to create plays.  Allen and Mahomes cracked the code in the modern age.  

Stroud's accuracy and anticipation does in fact show the ability to create but he has a problem with pocket hesitation.  He had 3-4 absolute NFL-tier beauties today that were anticipation throws downfield.  He has a lot to like but there's some QB "gene"/clutchness type questions that he has to start answering.

 

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